strange number corruption on pdp11/34
Jacob Ritorto
jacob.ritorto at gmail.com
Thu Jan 29 20:30:36 CST 2015
ok, now with my 'good' 11/34 board set (not the set with the mysterious
zero bug) installed, I re-ran xxdp against the rl02. I'm getting proper
prompts with the address and vectors supplied with non-zero numbers as
defaults. I just hit return like I had been doing with the 'zero-bug' cpu
boards and this time, the tests run, the drive blinks wildly like before,
and I get real results with real numbers filled in. I think this pretty
conclusively proves that there's something really weird (mysterious zero
bug) going on with my other board set.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
> On 2015-01-29 20:14, Pete Turnbull wrote:
>
>> On 29/01/2015 18:32, Jacob Ritorto wrote:
>>
>>> Johnny, you're insisting that I put in the real numbers for address
>>> and csr
>>> for testing the drive (for instance). I'm going to do that next, here.
>>> But are you understanding that some of us think that the reason it
>>> prompts
>>> a zero default is that it's a manifestation of the zero bug and that the
>>> real value *is* actually safe but hidden in memory? Did you see the
>>> RSX-11M crash dump I posted in the other thread?
>>>
>>
>> I didn't see a crash dump, but did you see what I posted yesterday?
>>
>
> I haven't seen any crash dumps either.
>
> The default in XXDP for CSRs is very often zero, and I'm pretty sure it
>> is so in the RL02 diagnostics (I've ont checked the listing for that
>> particular one, but I did look at some others that were more readily to
>> hand). So when it asked you for input and you just hit "return", you
>> really did tell it zero. Applying the principle of Occam's Razor, and
>> assuming the simplest solution is the correct one, you got a lot of
>> zeros back because it was accessing memory instead of the controller you
>> wanted.
>>
>> It's hard to believe you have a CPU fault that consistently prints
>> numbers as zeros yet happily boots three different OSs. Still, I'll
>> change the tune if you re-run XXDP with sensible inputs.
>>
>
> Totally agree with that one.
>
>
> Johnny
>
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