mainframes and other stuff

[Ian S. King]

LCM got a machine that I think was an 8650 or at least a sibling and, yes,
it was bigger and stinking heavy.  (I know, I unloaded it.)  But the 6600
is in my basement workshop at home.  Compact?  Not the word I'd use, but
no, it's not a 360/67 or KI-10.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:

> I might be remembering wrong, but I thought the cabinet was 22". But it
> might actually be 30".
>
> 600 lbs sounds a little heavy compared to the VAX 6400 machines I have
> experience from, but it might be in the same neighborhood.
>
> Way short of the 8650s I've moved around anyway. Both in size and
> weight... :-)
>
> Seriously. The 6000 series are pretty compact, I think.
>
>         Johnny
>
>
>
> On 2014-11-21 14:34, Ian S. King wrote:
>
>> Not sure we're talking about the same machine.   Mine is 30" square on the
>> floor,  and about 60" tall.  Oh, and about 600 lbs., according to the
>> shipping paperwork.
>> On Nov 21, 2014 10:41 AM, "Johnny Billquist" <bqt at update.uu.se> wrote:
>>
>>  6000-series VAXen are not really that big or heavy. They're just a single
>>> 22" cabinet.
>>>
>>> Come back when you have an 86x0 or a 9000... :-)
>>>
>>> (Or any PDP-10 except a KS.)
>>>
>>>    Johnny
>>>
>>> On 2014-11-21 10:11, Ian S. King wrote:
>>>
>>>  Forklift?  I generally rely on a large group of friends or a small group
>>>> of
>>>> large friends.  Two of us moved my VAX 6600.
>>>> On Nov 21, 2014 10:01 AM, "Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   The scrappers don't care what model it is, or how many boards, or if
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>> has a tape drive.
>>>>> It weighs xxx pounds, and is thus worth xxx $$ to them.
>>>>> So, yes, you could conceivably pick up a $2000 gizmo for $200.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am collecting a list of the brands and models, but so far, very few
>>>>> pics
>>>>> have been sent my way.  Even something from an ad on the internet is
>>>>> fine.
>>>>> The scrappers are very visual, and a dark brown cabinet will yield lots
>>>>> of
>>>>> results.  Lots of switches and lights is cool, but they don't turn them
>>>>> on
>>>>> (I don't think u want them to), and the $8 sorters barely speak
>>>>> English,
>>>>> and don't know what anything is.  The more visual we can be, the better
>>>>> our
>>>>> chances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> jwsmobile
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:47 AM
>>>>> To: General at classiccmp.org; Discussion at classiccmp.org:On-Topic and
>>>>> Off-Topic Posts
>>>>> Subject: Re: mainframes and other stuff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/21/2014 6:54 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hmmm....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >From the offers I am seeing here - the scrapper is just going to
>>>>>> laugh, then ignore further offers. Game over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Will
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> My list was posted just because she asked for specifics.  I did pay
>>>>> this
>>>>> to a very basic scrapper and if you have an update, I posted my best
>>>>> recollection of the mass.  Please update it if you all want to make a
>>>>> contribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> The list I gave covers the most likely to be found air-cooled
>>>>> mainframes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I paid the price of about 2 to 3 x steel scrap for all of my data
>>>>> center.
>>>>> It still lives on in the possession of a list member or 2.
>>>>>
>>>>> people post 3420's for 4000 bucks.  No scrapper is going to get that.
>>>>> If he wants to admire the scrap in his warehouse till someone might pay
>>>>> that for it, then it will be crap by the time the buyer gets to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As sold by the top of the thread, Cindy suggested the person was
>>>>> smashing
>>>>> this up and wanted specifics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Add them please.  It has been 30 years since I bought this, and I don't
>>>>> know what the price differential is, you seem to, so contribute it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>


-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS
Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School
University of Washington

An optimist sees a glass half full. A pessimist sees it half empty. An
engineer sees it twice as large as it needs to be.