BASIC environment ending with "run complete", and slashed 'O' characters?

[Bob4schoolboard94]

I used to use some tty33’s in the 70s which were used to connect to an hp2000 timeshared system.  Those tty’s had the slash O and non-slash zero that you describe.  It may have been a common tty33 configuration.

-Bob

> On Apr 26, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
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> Apparently so.  The word from a CDC experts list is that the "run complete" message is not from BASIC itself (which is indeed a CDC product) but rather from the time sharing executive, called TELEX in KRONOS and early NOS, and IAF in later versions of NOS.
> 
> As for the slashed letter O, that's strange.  Certainly it is not CDC practice; the only place I ever ran into this is with IBM, I always considered it an example of IBM doing things the weird way.  So it sounds like whoever bought those Teletype machines had them configured in that non-standard way for some reason.  Normal, as far as I know, was slashed digit zero.
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> MECC is a U. Minnesota KRONOS/NOS system with a bunch of local mods, but BASIC and TELEX are both part of the base system as supplied by CDC.
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>    paul
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2022, at 3:05 AM, Raymond Wiker via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
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>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDC_Kronos <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDC_Kronos>, perhaps? 
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>>>> On 26 Apr 2022, at 03:08, Jules Richardson via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Perhaps a long shot, but I've got an old piece of paper here showing a BASIC listing followed by a program run where the BASIC environment terminates with "run complete" - does that behavior ring any bells with anyone? I'm mildly curious what machine it may have come from.
>>> 
>>> The other interesting thing is that the output is from a teletype and the zero characters appear with no slash, while the uppercase 'O' characters do have a diagonal slash through them (e.g. the 'run complete' mentioned above comes out as 'RUN C0MPLETE') - certainly not unheard of, but I think doing the opposite had become typical practice by what, very early 1970s?
>>> 
>>> At the top of the page there is a paragraph as follows (all in uppercase on the printout, obviously, and with slashed 'O' characters):
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>>> "The following output is an example of BASIC language and the resulting run of a program. A punched paper tape of the program is included in the kit. This output was produced on a teletype."
>>> 
>>> I don't know if that means anything to anyone? I have no idea what "the kit" was but am guessing that the printout I have was once part of some kind of educational material.
>>> 
>>> I do have another printout from the MECC timeshare system (dated 78/9/1) which may have originated with the same teletype - it's different paper stock, but has the same slashed 'O' characters. The welcome message on that says 'Kronos 2.12-439', if that's meaningful...
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> 
>>> Jules
>>> 
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