Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

[Martin Bishop]

Bill

Your link to https://www.vintagecomputer.net/fanuc/FanucManuals1788.pdf "Fanuc System 6T-Model B" is very helpful.

The reader fitted to the PPR is a A860-0066-T001.  The readers referenced in the manual are close relatives.

Importantly, the manual provides significantly more detail on calibration and lubrication that the PPR manual.  Specifically:
- p 2 Block diagram
- p 7 Block diagram
- P 11 .. 20 Tape reader preventative maintenance (i.e. oiling)
- p 62 .. 63 Tape reader fault finding; esp node 13 -- use black tape
- p 81 .. 83 tape reader photo amplifier adjustment, tape pattern specification, observations and objectives (not in PPR manual - although not all applicable ?)
- p84 System connection diagram
- p 368 .. 369 Tape codes (ISO & EIA) - useful crib
- p 384 .. 385 Tape Reader lubricant specifications

None of the foregoing has resolved my problem.  However, I now know that you have to adjust for tape color p 82 note 2.  And, page 81 provides the cookery for a "zig zag" tape [referenced by pages 47 & 48 of the PPR operators manual]. 

Next step, make loop tapes (black and yellow) and attempt photo-amplifier adjustment.

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Bill Degnan via cctalk
Sent: 10 April 2022 00:14
To: Eric Moore <mooreericnyc at gmail.com>; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

I have a dostek 440a for sale and notes about my fanuc tape unit here.
https://www.vintagecomputer.net/fanuc/index.cfm

On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 6:51 PM Eric Moore via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
wrote:

> Hi Martin, I use the PPR for all kinds of paper tape shennanigans.
>
> https://youtu.be/hGr0F9a7x1A
>
> Remove all but the first jumper, and that may help with your issues. I 
> found at one point the jumper settings, but will need to search.
>
> -Eric
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Martin Bishop via cctalk < 
> cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > A nicely made yellow box with a rather poor manual - both lost in 
> > translation and limited in scope.
> >
> > Working on setting one to work, but can't get anything out of the 
> > serial port.  In drives the punch, and the punched data verifies 
> > (based on a
> QL).
> > In also drives the printer, although somewhat garbled, perhaps due 
> > to BCD coding or perhaps due to invalid parity (which is configured 
> > as no
> check).
> > The reader 'reads' tape both in response to X/ON over RS232 and in
> response
> > to front panel keys.  However, nothing is emitted onto 232.  The D25 
> > -
> D-9
> > transition has all the RTS/CTS and DSR/DTR/DCD lines knitted
> appropriately
> > and indicating 'correctly' on blinkenlites.  Interestingly, on long 
> > test tapes the reader does not fall off the end but stops, 
> > repeatably after
> ~49"
> > which is remarkably close to 512 octets.  Finally, the CNC 
> > termination octets : % (ASCII) and 0x80 (BCD : RS-244) don't seem to 
> > impress the
> reader
> > - nothing changes.
> >
> > Specific queries:
> > - Are there any magic control codes or handshaking rituals to coax 
> > data out of the reader
> > - Is the PPR to CNC Controller interface protocol manual available 
> > as pdf
> > - Where can I find drawings for the PPR's electronics, most 
> > importantly the main board (with its 8031)
> > - Suggestions on how to proceed with setting to work / fault 
> > diagnosis
> > - Has anyone house trained one of these to read PDP-11 absolute 
> > binary tapes, their target market was G code (text)
> >
> > Martin
> >
>