NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5
Wayne S
wayne.sudol at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 9 13:14:25 CDT 2020
Fyi .. there seems to be a lots of Netware for sale on Ebay for some reason.
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> On Sep 9, 2020, at 10:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
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> On 9/9/20 5:08 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
>> But that's good, isn't it?
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> Yes and no.
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> Yes in that it's below the problem point. :-)
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> No in that I don't have the necessary Support Pack's to install. :-(
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>> I confess I may have misread your original message as being "I need NW5.1 with no SPs." Was that wrong?
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> It might have been an ambiguity on my part.
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> I've learned a little bit since my last message.
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> I seem to have NetWare 5.1 (SP 0) for both "Domestic" (128-bit) and "Exportable" (56-bit). But there is a catch.
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> The exportable version is part of Novell Small Business Suite 5.1, which seems to be a superset of NetWare 5.1. I don't yet know if I can bust it down to be a more standard NetWare 5.1 without all the other unwanted NSBS stuff.
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> I did learn that NSBS 5.1 is the "Exportable" (56-bit) version and that it comes with Exportable NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 1 as an install able option on another disk.
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> Said Exportable NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 1 will install on NSBS 5.1. But given that it's the "Exportable" (56-bit) version, it won't install on standard "Domestic" (128-bit) NetWare 5.1. That being said, I don't really care about the 56-bit vs 128-bit. I just want stock NetWare 5.1 without all the NSBS 5.1 ... features. I'll install just the few features that I want.
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> Aside: NSBS 5.1 includes ZENworks (Starter?) and some other things that are above and beyond stock NetWare. I don't want those ... features yet. I want to learn more about stock NetWare 5.1.
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>> But if you have SP0, no bugfixes, then surely you can just install the SPs on top of it to get to whatever level you want?
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> The only Support Pack that I've been able to find thus far is Exportable NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 1. I've not yet been able to locate any other support packs.
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> Well, I guess I can still get SP7 and SP8 from Novell's Patch Download. But that's beyond what works with what I'm testing with Border Manager 3.5
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> It's a weird nitch that I'm trying to fit in. Early Domestic (128-bit) NetWare with Support Pack > 0 and < 7.
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>> My $DAYJOB was part of Novell until about a year ago. I _may_ be able to find internal download links still but I am not confident. Want me to start asking around? I may need some fairly specific info as there are few Netware folk left now. E.g. how many separate SPs did NW5.1 get? Do you need both US and ROW versions?
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> I would be very interested in contacting someone at Novell ~> Micro Focus about acquiring copies of what was freely downloadable ~20 years ago.
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> I did take a swing (and apparently a miss) to contact someone at Micro Focus a year or so ago. But that never went anywhere. But I'm not surprised that a generic web contact us form didn't yield anything.
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> Please ask questions that you need ~> want more information about, be it here or directly off list (your choice).
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>> Oh dear...
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> Ya.... I'm not surprised. But it is making things ... tricky ... entertaining.
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>> TBH I have a suspicion nobody may have kept stuff like that, even inside Novell... :(
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> Ya. That seems to be the way that a LOT of things have gone in the industry. It's hobbyists like myself that tend to be archiving this stuff. I'm just 15-25 years too late.
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> I'm going through my NetWare disks (5.1 ~> 5.x ~> x.x) and getting a better handle on what version / language(s) / encryption they are.
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> Thank you for your time Liam. I appreciate your input and help.
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> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
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