cctalk Digest, Vol 71, Issue 1

[Earl Baugh]

I’m interested!!! Would you be able to take them to a UPS store ( or the like ) and I’ll call them to pay for shipping. 

Possible??

Earl 

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>   1. Re: OpenVMS Community License (Rico Pajarola)
>   2. Tallgrass PC hardfile driver/utility software (r.stricklin)
>   3. SUN VME - seller in Sweden. (Mattis Lind)
>   4. Re: SUN VME - Have em in US.... (Chris Zach)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:04:29 -0700
> From: Rico Pajarola <rp at servium.ch>
> To: Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon at hotmail.com>,  "General
>    Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: OpenVMS Community License
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> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 8:06 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
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>>>                                    One could make a case that the
>>> wording of the license is imprecise enough
>> 
>> The wording is only imprecise to those who do not wish to follow it.
>> It is, by far, the cleanest and plainest written Hobbyist License I
>> have ever seen.
> 
> IANAL, but I'm married to one... just pointing out that "clear language"
> does not mean the same thing to lawyers as it does to us engineers.
> "software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation" is pretty vague as far as
> lawyer-speak goes. The license does not seem to specifically include or
> exclude alternative scenarios. Anyone, especially a non-lawyer who was not
> involved with the drafting of the license, and says "obviously that must
> mean X" is just making stuff up (it doesn't matter what X is. Notice that
> I'm not saying it means you can use it under this license. I don't know,
> and IANAL). It's like undefined behaviour in C. You can make an educated
> guess (given additional information you have, such as history,
> correspondence with Mentec about the topic etc.), and you might be right,
> but the only way to find out for sure is to run the compiler and look at
> the disassembly, i.e. force a clarification from Mentec.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 00:03:19 -0700
> From: "r.stricklin" <bear at typewritten.org>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cctech at classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Tallgrass PC hardfile driver/utility software
> Message-ID: <11E069C4-5A01-4E1B-875E-D36D13C5E738 at typewritten.org>
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> Folks;
> 
> I see (and am grateful for) the disk images for the Tallgrass PC Hardfile/Tape unit (TG 3000/3100 series, such as my TG-3020) that have been archived on minuszerodegrees.com. This represents version 4.xx of the utilties, for use with PC-DOS 2.x.
> 
> I was hoping to use this device on a 5150 PC with PC-DOS 1.1 and CP/M-86. This requires an older version (3.xx) of the DOS software, and one for CP/M-86 1.00 (also Tallgrass software version 3.xx? but a separate disk, I should imagine).
> 
> If anybody happens to have a copy of either of these and don't mind sharing it, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks!
> 
> 
> ok
> bear.
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> -- 
> until further notice
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 14:55:50 +0200
> From: Mattis Lind <mattislind at gmail.com>
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> Subject: SUN VME - seller in Sweden.
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> A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case
> anyone is interested:
> 
> https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga
> 
> Approximately 100 USD each.
> 
> They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time
> without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate?
> 
> /Mattis
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 11:47:50 -0400
> From: Chris Zach <cz at alembic.crystel.com>
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: SUN VME - Have em in US....
> Message-ID: <3b876af1-7662-93c1-ad8e-bf8837fc682d at alembic.crystel.com>
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> I have about 15 boards that look like they came from Sun 3/xxx series 
> systems. Mostly SCSI controller boards things that might be clocks, and 
> memory boards. About 3 Sun 3/xxx CPUs as well (later ones, 68020)
> 
> Anyone need them? Let me know, pickup from MD preferred.
> 
> CZ
> 
> On 8/1/2020 8:55 AM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote:
>> A company has a few VME SUN 3/xxx CPU Cards and a SMD card for sale in case
>> anyone is interested:
>> 
>> https://ggsp.se/69-oevriga
>> 
>> Approximately 100 USD each.
>> 
>> They have also been listed on Swedish auction site Tradera for some time
>> without selling so perhaps it is possible to negotiate?
>> 
>> /Mattis
>> 
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