"First Internet message" and ...

Richard Pope mechanic_2 at charter.net
Mon Nov 25 15:46:02 CST 2019


Hello all,
     So I had an internet when I had my Amigas networked to my Windoze 
machines with Arcnet and the Windoze machines where connected to the 
Internet through a router/firewall. Correct??
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 11/25/2019 2:45 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
>      > From: Nigel Johnson
>
>      > No, your home has an intranet!
>
> Can you please provide a crisp, definitive, technical definition of what an
> 'intranet' is (similar to the one I just provided for 'internet' - "disparate
> networks tied together with packet switches which examine the internet-layer
> headers")?
>
> If not, it's just marketing-speak, and should go where "Hitchhiker's Guide"
> said marketing should go. (Having said that, only half-jokingly, I should add
> that I am fully aware that _really good_ marketing people are worth their own
> weight in gold-pressed latinum; the prime example being Steve Jobs, who
> invented several products that people didn't know they needed/wanted until he
> produced them.)
>
>
>      > From: Paul Koning
>
>      > No, "internet" has (had?) a very different meaning. Loosely, a network
>      > of computers belonging to different organizations, or using different
>      > technologies.
>
> That's not the definition used by the originators of the term: see the
> Cerf/Kahn paper. (I basically regurgitated it, above.)
>
>      > "Internet" .. the term picked to replace "ARPAnet" when it became
>      > desirable to call that network by a name that doesn't designate it as a
>      > US government research agency creation.
>
> I can guarantee you that that is not correct (sorry). In 1982, which is
> approximately when the term was created, you _had_ to have a USG connection to
> get connected to the Internet. And the ARPANET was always called the ARPANET
> until its last remnants were turned off in 1990 (although use of NCP was
> discarded in January 1983, considerably earlier, so it was only used as a
> component of the Internet after that).
>
> In fact, I recollect the conversion with Vint Cerf (at an INENG/IETF meeting,
> IIRC) where the term 'Internet' was suggested/adopted; in fact I may have been
> the person who suggested it, although the memory is now too dim. The adoption
> was _solely_ to do with the need for a name for the large internet we were all
> connecting to, and _nothing_ to do with organizational stuff.
>
> 	Noel
>
>



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