"First Internet message" and ...

[Nigel Johnson]

No, your home has an intranet!

cheers,

Nigel


On 25/11/2019 13:45, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:
> Noel,
>     Isn't the proper term for my network of computers here at home: 
> internet and the term : Internet the proper term for the worldwide 
> collection of networked computers?
> GOD Bless and Thanks,
> rich!
>
> On 11/25/2019 12:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
>>      > From: Fred Cisin
>>
>>      > Is that message about 1) history of internet? (THANK YOU for 
>> specifying
>>      > "internet", otherwise "computer to computer" involves much 
>> older history.
>>      > ...
>>      > those messages were sent on PRECURSORS to the internet, NOT on 
>> the
>>      > internet.
>>
>> Did you mean "internet" or 'Internet'?
>>
>> The poorly educated cretins at the AP nothwithstanding, those are two
>> different words, with _different meanings_.
>>
>>
>>      > Definition and history of the WORD "internet" is also critical
>>      > ...
>>      > do you know of any actual use of the word/name "internet" 
>> prior to the
>>      > December 1974 RFC about TCP?
>>
>> I believe the word 'internet' was coined for:
>>
>>        V. Cerf and R. Kahn, "A Protocol For Packet Network
>>        Intercommunication," IEEE Transactions on Communication, vol. C-
>>        2O, No. 5. May 1974, pp. 637-648.
>>
>> There was earlier work in the general area of connecting computer data
>> networks together, performed in the International Packet Network Working
>> Group (INWG), which had an alternative term 'catenet' which had much 
>> the same
>> meaning as 'internet'. (Although little-known, the INWG - not to be 
>> confused
>> with the later DARPA-centric group of the same acronym - is 
>> documented in two
>> papers, a draft one by Ronda Hauben, and a later one by Alex 
>> McKenzie.) I
>> don't know if the term 'internet' was used there before its 
>> appearance in the
>> Cerf/Kakhn paper.
>>
>> Interestingly, "Internetworking" is mentioned in RFC604, December 
>> 1973, so
>> the word was in circulation in the technical community before the 
>> Cerf/Kahn
>> paper came out.
>>
>>
>> "Internet" came along later, when we needed a name for the internet 
>> centered
>> around the ARPANET. The need was discussed on the then-central email 
>> list for
>> the TCP/IP community (which may have been called 'inwg' - my memory 
>> is, alas,
>> fading), and we decided on 'Internet'.
>>
>> I'd previously looked for the first use of 'Internet' in that sense 
>> in the
>> RFC's, and found it, but I don't remember what it was! Looking again, 
>> there's
>> a lot of 'Internet Protocol' and similar things to sort out; I see an
>> 'Internet' in RFC780, May 1981, but it's marginal (it says "ARPA 
>> Internet");
>> the first 'true' use of 'Internet' on its own in the current meaning 
>> which
>> I found was in RFC821, August 1982.
>>
>>     Noel
>>
>
  

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