PDP-11/84 Qbus slots for memory

Noel Chiappa jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Mon Jul 23 08:59:47 CDT 2018


    > From: Charles Dickman

    > an 11/84 with the UNIBUS adapter and PMI memory does not have a Qbus.
    > ... the KDJ11-B (M8190) bus protocols change when a KTJ11 (UNIBUS
    > adapter) is present and so what would be expected to be Qbus isn't.

Ah, excellent point.

Looking at the description of the CPU/UBA adapter in the KDJ11-B User Manual
(EK-KDJ1B-UG-001, pp. 7-6 to 7-9), the answer is not certain; it all depends
on implementation details on the CPU card which aren't described.

E.g. the DMA cycle _might_ work, it all depends on what happens at step 8
when, instead of PBSY being asserted, BSYNC is asserted. The _memory_ will be
fine (since in an -11/83, this kind of thing is expected)... but the _CPU_,
who knows.

Interrupt cycles are more problematic; the assertion of the interrupt level
on the BDAL lines (step 1a) will probably pass, but step 6 (assertion of
BSACK) may be an issue, since the device will want to assert BRPLY instead
(BSACK is not used in a QBUS interrupt), and the CPU may not do the right
thing.

    > I think there was a DEC Micronote that explained the protocol
    > modifications involved.

I don't think so; #30 "PMI on KDJ11-B and MSV11-J" describes the _basic_
PMI, but the interaction with the UBA isn't described there. But the
KDJ11-B User Manual has it in some detail.

	Noel


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