Heh ... so it begins on cctalk. Just like in modern politics, or science, etc., people have opinions which they think override facts. :) My own father does this and it drives me crazy. I'll say, "2+2=4" and he'll say, "I believe it's 5" ... DAD IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU FRIGGING BELIEVE, 2 PLUS 2 IS STILL 4!!!!!!