IBM 4331 Mainframe

dave.g4ugm at gmail.com dave.g4ugm at gmail.com
Mon May 1 13:16:45 CDT 2017


No, these were very much Air Cooled. IBM's advertising implied they could be
run in a normal office environment, e.g. as here:-

 

https://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_2423PH4331.h
tml

 

but in practice that layout would not work, clearance was required round all
sides as can be seen from the Physical Planning Manual which is available
here

 

http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/content/computing/IBM/Mainframe/Hardware/Syst
em/GA24-3667-1_IBM4300InstallationManual-PhysicalPlanning_Sept79.pdf

 

One issue with these machines was that whilst they were (and still are I
guess) S/370 compatible, in some ways they were perhaps at the time not
considered "Mainframes" by the owners of real S/370 machines.

 

This was because System/370 I/O is normally managed by a "Channel Program"
which is executed by a "channel processor" and on the bigger boxes this was
a separate "CPU"

But on the 4331, 41 and 61 (but not 81) the main CPU was also used to
execute the channel programs, so whilst the CPU was 3x faster than a
370/115, under heavy i/I it would slow down as it was diverted to running
the channel programs. 

There is a whole chapter on this in:-

 

http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/43xx/4331/GA33-1527-0_IBM_4331_Pr
ocessor_Channel_Characteristics_Apr79.pdf

 

starting at page 12. You may also read this note:-

 

http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=4331BNCH
<http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=4331BNCH&ft=MEMO&args=4331+channel+
cpu#hit> &ft=MEMO&args=4331+channel+cpu#hit

 

and this

 

http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=308X:PCM
<http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=308X:PCM&ft=MEMO&args=4331+channel+
cpu#47> &ft=MEMO&args=4331+channel+cpu#47

 

about the problems that were had with this CPU.

 

Dave Wade

 

From: dwight [mailto:dkelvey at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 01 May 2017 17:54
To: dave.g4ugm at gmail.com; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: IBM 4331 Mainframe

 

Aren't these water cooled?

I seem to remember hoses.

Dwight

 

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> Subject: IBM 4331 Mainframe
> 
> Just to let folks know that I finally moved the IBM 4331 Mainframe this
past
> weekend from where it was currently stored to my shop.  Pictures are here:
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/150223282@N04/NrX91K
> <https://www.flickr.com/gp/150223282@N04/NrX91K>
> 
> As can be seen in the pictures, it filled a 26' box truck that I had
rented for
> this purpose.
> Right now I just have it placed somewhat in my shop.  Some early tasks
will
> be:
>    * I have to verify that I have everything.  Even if I missed some
items, they
> won't be
>      scrapped.  I just need to go over what is currently in my shop and
verify
> that I didn't
>      leave anything behind.  I'm mostly worried about cables at this
point.
>   * I have to figure out some way to produce enough "clean" 3-phase power
> to run the
>     peripherals (the CPU is 220v single phase) as I only have 220v single
phase
> coming
>     into my shop.
> 
> Starting to power it up will probably be a while yet.  ;-)
> 

Yes I remember having a gentle discussion with the University of Salford
electricians, who wanted to know why I wanted 2 x 100amp feeds for the room
into which the 4361 (I think it was a 4361, might have been a 4331 or 4341)
was placed. I don't think we ever loaded them at 100amps but that was what
IBM required. One was for the AirCon and the other for the CPU. If I
remember properly those disks are the truculent ones. Assuming you have
AirCon they need to sit for several hours to acclimatise. 


> TTFN - Guy

Dave






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