I hate the new mail system
Pete Turnbull
pete at dunnington.plus.com
Tue Mar 7 04:58:38 CST 2017
On 07/03/2017 09:57, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
> And BTW, what you are doing is not clever at all:
> mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG
> SMTP error from remote mail server after initial connection:
> host MX-4.rodents-montreal.org [98.124.61.89]:
> 550-.de's whois server, whois.denic.de, is completely broken, handing
> 550-out no contact information at all when queried for .de domains in
> 550 the usual way. Such a domain has no place on a civilized network.
>
> This is just wrong. Of course they hand out contact information!
> Sorry, I had to post it here since I cannot contact you directly.
No, Mouse is right, it's broken:
$ whois uni-stuttgart.de
% Error: 55000000007 Request not clearly specified
$ whois -h whois.denic.de uni-stuttgart.de
% Error: 55000000007 Request not clearly specified
$
So then I try this:
$ telnet whois.denic.de 43
Trying 81.91.170.6...
Connected to whois.denic.de.
Escape character is '^]'.
help
% SYNTAX: whois [-r] [-T types] [-C charset] key
%
% where our server understands the following options:
%
% -r turn off recursive lookups (default: on)
% -T ace ACE input for domain lookup
% -T domain (dn) only look for objects of type domain
% -T status (st) only look for domain status
% -C charset specify character set for the input/output
% Available charsets: US-ASCII, ISO-8859-1,
UTF-8 (default)
%
% NOTE: Read the detailed documentation for valid argument combinations.
There are two special queries
%
% [?, HELP, help] displays this text
% alive at whois returns 'alive' if whois server runs properly
%
% Detailed documentation under https://www.denic.de/webwhois/?lang=en
%
Connection closed by foreign host.
$
So far, so good. The server's alive (yes, I also tried the
"alive at whois" command). But:
$ telnet whois.denic.de 43
Trying 81.91.170.6...
Connected to whois.denic.de.
Escape character is '^]'.
whois -r uni-stuttgart.de
% Error: 55000000007 Request not clearly specified
Connection closed by foreign host.
$
That's broken.
And there is little helpful documentation about how to query the whois
service at the URL given in the HELP text. I eventually found a document at
https://www.denic.de/fileadmin/public/documentation/DENIC-12p_EN.pdf
which describes how to make a whois query of this rather idiosyncratic
server. It states that it should work as I tested it - but even
adopting the example given in that document fails:
$ whois -h whois.denic.de -T status uni-stuttgart.de
% Error: 55000000007 Request not clearly specified
$
$ telnet whois.denic.de 43
Trying 81.91.170.6...
Connected to whois.denic.de.
Escape character is '^]'.
whois -T status uni-stuttgart.de
% Error: 55000000007 Request not clearly specified
Connection closed by foreign host.
$
Epic fail.
--
Pete
Pete Turnbull
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