3480 pictures

Cindy Croxton sales at elecplus.com
Thu Oct 8 17:46:57 CDT 2015

There are MANY boxes of tapes, manuals, etc. that came with this equipment.  I am still waiting for a price.


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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mike Ross
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 5:41 PM
To: jwsmail at jwsss.com; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: 3480 pictures

This is a more recent z/Series machine; it may well be running Linux
on the Support Element rather than OS/2.

But Guy is 100% correct; all the support and configuration stuff there
is critical to preserve exactly as-is. Recreating it from backups or
reinstalling it from scratch is not for the faint-hearted. A lot of it
is very arcane stuff, for IBM service engineers only; don't forget,
there's stuff in there IBM charge big money for - enabling and
disabling CPUs and memory. You want more CPU in your mainframe? You
pay IBM $50k or whatever and they send an engineer round to turn it
on... ok it can be done remotely too these days but point taken;
there's a lot of stuff in there that's critical, undocumented,
specific to the individual machine, and never supposed to be touched
by anyone outside IBM...


On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, jwsmobile <jws at jwsss.com> wrote:
> On 10/8/2015 2:09 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Cindy Croxton <sales at elecplus.com> wrote:
>>> There appears to be a Z system in the photos.  Image035.jpg is a photo
>>> showing the open system bay, and the HMC laptop.  It is beyond critical
>>> that that laptop be carefully preserved and handled, as that will be the
>>> difference between junk and possibly turning it on and running it again.
>>> Thanks, Jim.  I have let them know to preserve the laptop, and asked for
>>> a
>>> price for the system.
>> It’s not only important to preserve the laptop(s) but to preserve them
>> *with*
>> the z/system.  It’s an integral part of the machine.  The z/system is a
>> boat
>> anchor without it.
>> TTFN - Guy
> Good point, Guy.  A backup may not be enough as well.  If by some miracle
> the microcode is available from the customer site in the form of floppies of
> CDrom that is critical too.
> Mike Ross may comment on this and maybe others, but I think it is possible
> to build back up an HMC for one of these systems given the microcode, more
> easily than it is with older systems which used PS2/30's.  But it is
> critical to have the microcode, which is most likely a copy of OS/2 with a
> bunch of extra files on it.
> The PS2/30's had a very narrow range of hardware that is increasingly not
> around in working form (disk drives) anymore, where the laptops have a
> better chance of working with the image backup place on a different unit.
> But one needs access to this laptop to make sure it is backed up (or system)
> before going very far.
> Thanks
> Jim


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