1980s/1990s 68k C cross (and not so cross) compilers
Toby Thain
toby at telegraphics.com.au
Wed Nov 25 13:08:26 CST 2015
On 2015-11-25 1:41 PM, Phil Budne wrote:
> Brad Parker wrote:
>> .... Remember sumex-aim ? SumMacC.
>> Anyway, I think the Kinetics fastpath was compiled with that....
>
> Perhaps originally.... But when the FastPath code arrived at Shiva it
> was using the SunOS 4 native compiler on Sun3. I moved it to gcc on Sun4.
>
> The 6/88 KIP release has CC=/usr/stanford/bin/cc68
> Rutgers KIP c. 1989 used gcc
>
>> There was also that wacky company in cambridge which made a hybrid
>> c-compiler/c-interpreter. It worked really well but it wasn't quite
>> right. I loved the idea but never bought one. That was around 1988,
>> 1989? I always hoped to find the source code for that.
>
> Saber-C? It became "Code Center" by Centerline. Steve Kauffer kept it
> going while working on startups (TripAdvisor being the successful one).
> It ended up at ICS.COM: https://motif.ics.com/products/codecenter
>
> ISTR some product of that ilk that read and patched object code and
> only worked on RISC platforms...
>
>> I think gcc was the standard for 68k from 1987 on. Yes, greenhills, but
>> it's not clear it produced better code and it was really expensive.
>
> I never dealt with that many 68K compilers. I remember a whole slew
> of problematic compilers and debuggers on 32x32 (Encore) and ROMP (IBM
> PC/RT). At least of them couldn't handle cfront output and/or "Duff's
> Device"
Yes. As I hinted in my earlier post on this, bad/buggy/unmaintained
vendor compilers are a big part of why gcc came to exist.
And then much later, fittingly, it wiped them out and replaced most of
them as a standard system compiler. :)
--Toby
>
> phil
>
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