Apple II Rev 2 value?

[Brad]

I have tons of integer roms and spare keys.  I am a veteran of that whole business. :)  I recall trying the flush method on my Rev 4 here but it turned out to be fruitless on a lot of them.  I think mine spent time in the Titanic's purser's safe.

So value wise, could I go $1300-1800 without causing offence?  I actually prefer the broken machines -- just fun to fix up.  But also because the initial outlay hopefully is cheaper.

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Sticking keys are normal if it's a datanetics keyboard (original).  You can recover the switches usually by flushing then with 91% ISP and lots of mechanical motion.   I usually pull the key cap off and use a needle nose pliers about 50 times on each switch flushing it every so often using the ISP in an eye dropper.    Even if there is a key or two you can't recover they can be found for about $10-15 each every so often on eBay.  

A set of Integer Roms on a language card will cost you about $150.  

Just remember when you usually see these early Apple II up for sale they usually aren't working correctly.  Keep that in mind when you research prices.  Early Apple II are like Rev-0 and Rev-1 ALTAIR, people usually don't sell them in perfect working condition unless you had some $$$$.  So easier to buy one with potential and get to running.  

Cheers,
Corey

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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Brad <unclefalter at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
> I had a closer look at the Rev 2.  The keyboard is non functional (all the keys stick).  The ROMs are applesoft, not integer basic (it has a ram add on card too).  It powers up but nothing happens.  Would that still have us in the $2k range?  
> 
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> Yep.  I have a spare blank datanetics PCB if you want to transfer your switches to a PCB which doesn't have repairs.  This is for the version with the separate encoder daughter board.  
> 
> Cheers,
> Corey
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> corey cohen
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>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Corey Cohen <applecorey at optonline.net> wrote:
>> 
>> If the keyboard is a datanetics with the daughter board, I may have a spare empty PCB if you want it to transfer your switches.  I'll check tonight. 
>> 
>> Where are you located?
>> 
>> It actually should be a silver supply.  I have a rev-4 with original silver supply.   I elected to repair instead of replace my supply. 
>> 
>> So I would think about $1000 to 1500 when all together.  The big question is that hole you mentioned was drilled into the case.  Can you be more specific? That affects the value.  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Corey
>> 
>> corey cohen
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>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:48 PM, Brad <unclefalter at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My Rev 4 has an Apple Rev 4 board in it.  Basically I tossed the clone board and PSU and replaced with what should be the correct motherboard (w/integer basic ROMs) and I think PSU.  PSU seems to be a matter of debate, some have suggested to me it should be the silver A2M, others said it should be the gold 2+ style one I have in there now.  Not sure on that.  The keyboard is the original for sure, but I had to do some trace repair on it using short jumper wires.
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>>> Well your rev-4 setup isn't going to be worth top dollar because of the condition and clone motherboard, you don't mention if it's the original datanetics keyboard and if the powersupply is the original one.  Infact it may only be worth a couple of hundred dollars or less.   
>>> 
>>> Basically the answers to those questions determine if you are simply selling a case or a case with extras.  Notice I didn't say you are selling a Rev4 Apple II because the motherboard is missing.  
>>> 
>>> Also depending on the hole that was drilled also that can impact the value a lot for a case since people looking for a case want a good condition one. 
>>> 
>>> Answer those questions and we will give you a good idea. 
>>> 
>>> As for the Rev 2.  In the condition explained I'd expect maybe 2k.  btw.  Rev 0 are going for more 3k if they are in complete condition.  Most aren't.  They tend to have replacement parts like supply or keyboard.  If the motherboard is replaced they are just a case.   
>>> 
>>> Also with anything timing is important, if a person is looking at the time, they may spend more than if no one is looking at that specific time.  I have seen eBay auctions sometimes too late and kicked my self how low something went for.   You just never know.  
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Corey
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>>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:36 PM, Brad <unclefalter at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have a rev 4 Apple II in the 38000 s/n range.  I'm hoping to, 
>>>> over the years, gradually trade my way up to a Rev 0.  I've seen 
>>>> Rev 0 units go on ebay recently for around $3000ish.  Below that 
>>>> seems to be a jumble, mostly to do with completeness, originality, etc.
>>>> Although, no always.  Some have had motherboards upgraded to newer versions and still gone for $2500.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I'm looking to move up.  My questions (and I realize this 
>>>> is all
>>>> opinion):
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1)      What would my Apple II rev 4 be worth?  Again it's serial number is
>>>> in the 38000 range, black label.  It was in France and had its 
>>>> original board replaced with a clone board, and some customization 
>>>> including a small switch for power that was drilled into the back 
>>>> of the case was done.  I have installed a Rev 4 board with Integer 
>>>> Basic chips.  I also did some repairs on the keyboard and it is 
>>>> fully functional, but the repairs involved a couple of jumper wires to deal with bad traces.
>>>> 
>>>> 2)      What would you be willing to pay for a 12000 range s/n Rev 2 that is
>>>> in so/so  condition, some rusty chip legs and non-functional keyboard?  
>>>> Is a Rev 2 anything special?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
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