DEC Legacy 2015 Pictures

Tue Apr 14 17:34:56 CDT 2015

I have advocated venues further South a few times, but as I am not the organiser it is not for me to say. I would quite like it to be in Manchester! But, am I prepared to put in the effort to organise it?

I am guessing that when you talk about a retrospective show, you mean something designed to inform the public. I don't think this is an event intended to inform the public, it is really just an informal gathering for enthusiasts, so in that sense you are right that it is introspective, but I don't see anything wrong with that. What you seem to be talking about is a much larger event, with many visitors, exhibitors etc. That would make organising it orders of magnitude harder and riskier financially. If someone wants to take that on then that would be great, I would consider attending. Although, the bigger such an event gets, the more formal it gets, the more rules there are; I think it would be less fun.

I don't get the bit about the risk to equipment in getting it to the Lake District. I would expect that moving it 20 miles or moving it 200 miles wouldn't make much difference. At a bigger event, with more people milling around it, I would think it was more at risk from people messing with it while you aren't looking.

In the end I think it comes down to this. The organiser can organise it to be anywhere he feels most comfortable in organising it. If someone else wants a similar event somewhere else, then they should either find someone who wants to organise it, or they should do it themselves.

It sounds like you have some interesting stuff, if you do decide to make the trip it would be great to see you at the next one. What would you bring?

Regards

Rob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod
> Smallwood
> Sent: 14 April 2015 12:55
> To: General at classiccmp.org; Discussion at classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-
> Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: DEC Legacy 2015 Pictures
> 
> Hi yes all good points.
> 
> It wasn't DEC who considered places remote it was their customers.
> I have no axe to grind I'm a born and bred Liverpool Scouser and would defend
> the Northwest if needed.
> 
> DEC did have a large office in Manchester and think an offshoot in Leeds.
> 
> The question was simple " Where do I put a show to get the maximum of
> attendees?"
> You already know the answer. It cost DEC a few grand to find that one out.
> 
> Bletchley Park. A shame. A house divided against itself or an agressive take
> over. Is the war over yet?
> 
>   Of course there is another way to look at it. Make it difficult to get to and only
> the really keen ones will go.
> Not only a retrospective show but introspective one as well.
> 
> Was there anybody there who actually worked for DEC or am I the last of the
> many?
> 
> That said.. If there is another one (show that is) and I'm fit to travel I may well
> come up.
> 
> Rod
> 
> On 14/04/2015 11:08, Dave G4UGM wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod
> >> Smallwood
> >> Sent: 14 April 2015 10:31
> >> To: General at classiccmp.org; Discussion at classiccmp.org:On-Topic and
> >> Off- Topic Posts
> >> Subject: Re: DEC Legacy 2015 Pictures
> >>
> >> Hi Mark
> >>                I think we would all like to live near the Lake
> >> District and an excuse to visit is always welcome.
> >> Venue is easy. Slap in the middle = Birmingham.
> >>
> >> Years ago DEC bought in market surveys as to the best place for shows.
> >> All had the same answer. Birmingham
> >> London was too expensive and everywhere else remote or poor access.
> > Ah typical, Manchester "Remote".... Has he tried getting into central
> > Birmingham recently, with all the road works. Its quicker by Canal
> > Boat:-(
> >
> > Its also getting expensive to find venues in Birmingham, as it is about as
> central as you can get in the UK. Decent accommodation (it was a two day
> event) can also be challenging.
> >
> >> What is the point of me having 20+ working DEC systems if I can't
> >> show them unless I become a long distance lorry driver?
> >>
> > Organize your own event! I wonder if the TNMOC of computing would let us
> run an event there? But of course they don't have much space either and they
> are, I believe still not really on speaking terms with Bletchley...
> >
> >> Good luck for next year.
> >> At least I can look at the pictures
> >>
> >> Rod
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 14/04/2015 10:01, Mark Wickens wrote:
> >>> Rod
> >>>
> >>> Where would you consider accessible in terms of major cities? This
> >>> question comes up every year and I'm open to suggestions, but it
> >>> would probably end up with me having a three hour drive instead. The
> >>> problem I'll have is the 'unknowns' of a new venue - we still have a
> >>> few of them here every year even though the event has run several
> >>> times now and it's a lot easier to get things sorted close to home.
> >>>
> >>> This year I've have folks come from South West England, Wales, Kent
> >>> and even Holland - and that included a substantial amount of kit. As
> >>> far as I know it's all survived (apart from a VT320 - but that died
> >>> before it left the building).
> >>>
> >>> Having said that I appreciate there is a not insubstantial expense
> >>> in travel and accommodation that would be mitigated if the event
> >>> were within a reasonable distance.
> >>>
> >>> Regards, Mark
> >>>
> >>> On 14/04/15 09:11, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> >>>> It a pity its not somewhere more accessible.
> >>>> I have plenty of DEC systems that run.
> >>>> However a four hour drive would not do them or me any good.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rod Smallwood
> >>>> Digital Equipment Corporation (1973-1985)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14/04/2015 06:22, kirkbdavis at hush.com wrote:
> >>>>> Man that 11/70 sure would look nice on my coffee table..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On April 13, 2015 at 10:20 PM, "Mark Wickens" <msw at hecnet.eu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>> I've uploaded some photos from the 2015 DEC Legacy event:
> >>>>>> http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/image
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Had a great time - already looking forward to the next one. Many
> >>>>>> thanks to the presenters (local and remote) and everyone who
> >>>>>> attended.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards, Mark.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> p.s. yes, I will try and get a better gallery tool embedded into
> >>>>>> the DEC Legacy site. The drupal one I'm currently using sucks.
> >