List memberships and duplicates [was Re: Yay, now I need some Osborne boot media!]

[Andrew Burton]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Robertson" <pinball at telus.net>
To: <General at classiccmp.org>; "Discussion at classiccmp.org:On-Topic and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: List memberships and duplicates [was Re: Yay, now I need some
Osborne boot media!]


On 12/01/2014, 10:31 AM, Peter Coghlan wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:28:05 -0800 Chris Osborn <fozztexx at fozztexx.com>
wrote:
>
>> On Nov 24, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Mouse <mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG> wrote:
>>
>>> Me too.  I tried unsubbing from cctech and was told I wasn't
>>> subscribed.  So I've just left it, figuring Jay has bigger fish to fry
>>> for the moment - if it really bugged me I'd procmail the cctech copy to
>>> /dev/null.  If it's still going on whenever it seems to me it's worth
>>> mentioning again (a month? two?), I may see if Jay has the spare cycles
>>> then to deal with it.
>> I’ve been getting the duplicates too and also haven’t said anything for
the
>> same reasons. I did check the “List-" headers to see if I was getting a
copy
> >from cctech, but it’s not coming from there. I suspect what’s happening
is
>> the cctech is forwarding to cctalk, or has cctalk as a subscriber, and
the
>> cctalk list is not checking or storing the Message-ID to prevent
duplicate
>> messages.
>>
>> Like you, I’m not an expert on mailman. The last time I ran a mailing
list
>> I used procmail’s SmartList.
>>
> I am still getting duplicate mails.  To recap, I am subscribed to cctech
and
> one copy of each duplicate is arriving with a cctech From: address and the
> second copy is arriving with a cctalk From: address.  I have tried to
> unsubscribe from cctalk but I never receive the email asking me to confirm
> I wish to unsubscribe, suggesting that I am not subscribed to cctalk.
>
> There have only been a few responses to this thread so it appears that
either:
>
> 1) There are very few people experiencing this problem.
>
> or
>
> 2) All cctech subscribers are experiencing it and very few find it a
problem.
>
> or
>
> 2) All cctech subscribers are experiencing it and there are very few
people
>     subscribed to cctech!
>
> It doesn't look like this is going to be fixed quickly so I decided it's
time
> to do something before talk of cooking the Thanksgiving turkey turns to
talk
> of cooking the Christmas turkey.  I decided that if I unsubscribe from
cctech
> and subscribe to cctalk, even though I will still get the off-topic stuff,
I
> should get a lot less mail because the on-topic stuff should only arrive
once,
> which is definately an improvement and will do for now.
>
> In case I might miss anything important, like someone offering a free IBM
3420
> on my doorstep, I decided to subscribe to cctalk first, wait until I start
> getting three copies of everything and then unsubscribe from cctech.
>
> So, I subscribed to cctalk (with the same address I use for cctech which
on
> reflection may not have been a good idea), replied to the confirmation
email
> and then received the "Welcome to cctalk" email.  However, I have not
started
> getting three copies of anything.  Everything is very much as before, one
> copy from from cctalk and usually another some time later from cctech,
> presumably after moderator approval.
>
> I thought I was on to something when one message arrived twice from cctalk
and
> twice more from cctech but then I found that it appears to have been sent
to:
>
> On-Topic Posts <cctech at classiccmp.org>, General at classiccmp.org, and
Off-Topic
> Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
> so it's arrival here four times is consistent with previous behaviour.
>
> So what next?  I get the feeling that if I unsubscribe from cctech, I will
> stop receiving anything at all and if I unsubscribe from cctalk, nothing
will
> happen.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> Peter Coghlan.
>


That is similar to what I am getting, except that I am subscribed to CCTALK.
and have never been subscribed to CCTECH.

Until someone with sufficient Mailman experience comes along, or someone
with a time machine to lend to Jay, I don't think this will be fixed for a
while.


Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk