- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Depends on the boards and whats on them. These are eurocard sized boards with no gold plating. I doubt there is any gold on any connectors either. Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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UK electronic scrap prices.

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I don't know UK prices but they should be similar to the US. Scrap prices are similar world over in the developed countries. In the US, if it is bulky, without many circuit cards the value ranges from 5 cents per pound (motor breakage, must have copper content) (like power supplies) to 16 cents per pound (Aluminum breakage - mixed Aluminum and other metals) (like hard drives or computer gear with aluminum cabinets) it is sold & bid price is calculated by weight. Aluminum and heavy copper can raise values, especially if they are easy to remove. Heavy circuit cards (with relays or metal bracing) are 10 cents to 40 cents per pound. Poor circuit cards (Like recent PC stuff) 0 to 20 cents. Medium circuit cards (DEC, DG & stuff from the 80s) $1.00 per pound Good cards like (Intel multibus I - 70s, early 80s - lots of black chips, gold chips, old silicon chips.) $1.50 - $2.00 per pound Gold plated cards (like HP) $3.50 per pound & up (depends on age) Cards have to be complete with edge connectors and all chips. Gold chips alone are $8.00 to $20 per pound and sometimes more, especially for old military. Old gold pin backplanes are worth $20 to $50 and up Good (25 pins in a 25 shell) clipped connectors $2.50 per pound. This is what the scrap dealer is going to look as bidding figures. There are deductions for problems related to the bulk of the lot (do you have to rent a truck?) Call a scrap dealer that is not going to bid on the lot and ask the prices for Motor Breakage, Aluminum Breakage, Medium circuit cards and heavy circuit cards. Also the price of Aluminum scrap, cleaned (this means all iron, including screws, removed) Much of the value in electronic scrap is in the a luminum and how easy it is to get out. Someone else will have to convert to British Pounds. Good luck and what is the stuff? Paxton Astoria, OR Ps You can contact me directly if you want help trying to figure out the scrap value of the lot. I am not going to bid on it. Do you have pictures?

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BIG problem with my Jupiter Ace

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Philip Pemberton" <philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com> > >Right - thanks for the suggestions Peter (and Dwight). I've printed off your >suggestions and I'll have a look through them tomorrow. The RAMs are >soldered in, though, so it'll be very difficult to swap them. Plus the holes >and pads on the board are *extremely* tiny. >Guess I was jumping to conclusions a bit... Just out of interest, has anyone >got a spare pair of 2732s and an EPROM burner capable of burning them? Just >in case it turns out the ROMs (TI branded - getting quite warm, same as the >CPU) are frazzled, too. Earliest I'll be able to get my sticky mitts on an >EPROM programmer and some 2732s will be around the 25th (think about it)... >*sigh* > >Thanks. >-- >Phil. >philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com >http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ > Hi Phil You didn't mention where you were? You might be right next door to someone that can help. Dwight >

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My first good find!!!

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Phil, > I don't suppose you have a copy of the Jupiter Ace > schematics, do you? http://www.home-micros.freeserve.co.uk/JupiterAce/JupiterAce.html Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I have heard of people using an HP LX palmtop (the 100LX/200LX have a fuller serial port implementation than does the 95LX) as a terminal for the type of tasks you mention. The 200LX runs MS-DOS 5.0 on an i80186, so you should be able to get a number of terminal emulation programs that will work on it. -----Original Message----- From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:10 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Modern replica/implementation of a dumb terminal? I was musing about the state of VT100s and other dumb terminals and had a few ideas zing by... <snip> I have used my Palm Pilot as a portable terminal for reconfiguring Cisco routers (VT100 app and a travel cable and the appropriate RS-232 dongles). My boss at the time flipped when he saw me do it (everybody else dragged a laptop into the server room). There are just times when I'd like a laptop-sized-or-smaller ANSI terminal. I can forego double-high/double-wide chars, inverse video and the like for simplicity's sake (hardly ever used them in an app except at the South Pole), but it should be complex enough to run a screen editor (vi or emacs) and/or basic curses apps (Rogue/Larn/NetHack and the like). One place I thought BIOS replacement might be handy was in a sub-486 laptop.... just pull it out, plug it in and *voila*, it's a dumb terminal weighing a few lbs. Yes, it's possible to drop an OS on a floppy and add Kermit (I've already done that with a dual-720K- floppy Zenith 8088 portabie). I'm thinking of a dedicated "instant- on" experience. I also have some "Net Stations" with a 5"x5" 486 motherboard stuffed under a PC keyboard (with 4 30-pin SIMM sockets, IDE, serial, video, and NE2000 network built-in). They don't run off batteries, but neither do they have an intergral screen. I've also tried to think of ways to adapt a Palm Pilot with a permanent keyboard, but I'm not sure there's a way to do it with only one serial port (terminals typically have at least two, even if one is dedicated to servicing the keyboard and somewhat "invisible" to normal operation. The final angle I've worked on is to recycle the main board in a VT220 (being somewhat physically small), but I don't have schematics and I don't know what signals go over the ribbon cable to the PSU/ Analog board under the CRT. So has anyone else wrestled with how to cobble up a portable VT-100? Anyone get any further? -ethan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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BIG problem with my Jupiter Ace

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi all, I've just opened up my Jupiter Ace and I think the problem I'm having with it is far more severe than a blown CPU. It looks like while I was testing it this morning the PSU was accidentally powered up, the +12(unreg) connection made contact with the barrel of the power jack (-ve) and the PSU's -ve line made contact with one of the first five expansion bus pins on the topside of the board. The CPU was getting very hot - I've since swapped the original NEC D780C (1982 datecode) with a Sharp LH0080 Z80-A-CPU IC. The replacement is also getting hot (takes about a minute for either of them to hit 50deg C). Output >from the 7805 is 5.04V steady according to my Fluke 25 DMM. Video is being output and my TV can lock onto it, but the output is total garbage, no difference if I remove the CPU and ROMs or have them installed. The garbage is always the same, too, in case it matters. The replacement CPU is known-good - it came out of a working Toshiba HX-10 MSX. How should I proceed with this repair? I've got a Fluke 25 DMM and a Tek 466 storage scope at my disposal. Also, the schematics are almost unreadable. I got them from home-micros.freeserve.co.uk. Anyone got a better copy? Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

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BIG problem with my Jupiter Ace

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 5, 23:15, Philip Pemberton wrote: > Right - thanks for the suggestions Peter (and Dwight). I've printed off your > suggestions and I'll have a look through them tomorrow. Dwight's suggestion about checking power etc is the obvious first thing -- I should have mentioned that. > Just out of interest, has anyone > got a spare pair of 2732s and an EPROM burner capable of burning them? Yes, to both. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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BIG problem with my Jupiter Ace

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 5, 18:08, Philip Pemberton wrote: > Hi all, > I've just opened up my Jupiter Ace and I think the problem I'm having > with it is far more severe than a blown CPU. It looks like while I was > testing it this morning the PSU was accidentally powered up, the +12(unreg) > connection made contact with the barrel of the power jack (-ve) and the > PSU's -ve line made contact with one of the first five expansion bus pins on > the topside of the board. > The CPU was getting very hot - I've since swapped the original NEC D780C > (1982 datecode) with a Sharp LH0080 Z80-A-CPU IC. The replacement is also > getting hot (takes about a minute for either of them to hit 50deg C). Output > from the 7805 is 5.04V steady according to my Fluke 25 DMM. Video is being > output and my TV can lock onto it, but the output is total garbage, no > difference if I remove the CPU and ROMs or have them installed. The garbage > is always the same, too, in case it matters. The replacement CPU is > known-good - it came out of a working Toshiba HX-10 MSX. > How should I proceed with this repair? I've got a Fluke 25 DMM and a Tek > 466 storage scope at my disposal. It would be worth looking to see if signals look consistent (ie outputs of gates behave in the way you'd expect from what you see happening on the inputs). If you're thinking of replacing every chip at once, or one-by-one, I'd advise against it. You won't be able to tell what's really wrong, and random swapping might just destroy an otherwise perfectly good IC. The 74LS166 is a serial-out shift register, and I expect that's what generates the video stream. Since you say you always get a good consistent picture, with characters (even if they're junk) or some cosistent pattern, the shifter and video timing is working. That's probably where most of your 393's are, too (they're dual 4-bit counters). Am I right in thinking the character set is soft-loaded from the ROM? ie, not in a character generator ROM? Then you wouldn't expect to get recognisable characters unless the CPU can run, and the ROM is OK. Try swapping the memory chips around. If that gives different (but self-consistent) video, at least some of it is working. If it makes no difference, either it's *all* fried or the buffers have gone west. Other obvious things to check are the CPU clock and /M1 lines. The Z80 clock needs to be pulled high, your scope should be able to show if the clock is a nice square wave that goes up to almost 5V (minimum acceptable is about 4.5V, IIRC). The /M1 line goes low once for each instruction fetch; it should be pulsing. The data and address lines should be pulsing. If the CPU is free-running becasue it can't read instructons, it might be executing NOPs or RSTs or just some random instruction, depending on whether the data bus is stuck all-high, all-low, or at some random value. One possible cause of CPU and SRAM getting hot is if the data bus which they're trying to drive is stuck with an active signal. See if you can isolate the bus, and if the CPU or video behaves differently. I'm just giving general advice here, as I've not used an Ace in decades, and have no idea what the circuit looks like :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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UK electronic scrap prices.

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 04:16 PM 12/5/02 -0000, Lee wrote: > >I know we've been through this before but does anyone >have a handle on the going rate for scrap PCBs in the >UK? > >The reason - I've been made aware of a quantity of now >obsolete microprocessor equipment but I'm bidding against >the scrap man. Who knows, he may be charging for the >removal but I'd hate to lose this to him. > Prices vary widely depending on how much gold is on the cards but prices seem to run from just about nothing to as much as $4/lb here in the US. Even at the high end, that's about $4 per average sized board which is pretty cheap for a usefull board IMO. Joe

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My first good find!!!

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >Philip Pemberton wrote: >> I don't suppose you've got any spare 2114 RAMs as well, have you? I think >> the RAMs in my Ace may have died when I slipped with the PSU cable (oops). > >I have some 2114s if you have trouble finding a source. > >-- >John Honniball >coredump(a)gifford.co.uk > > Hi Before he starts ramdomly replacing parts, maybe it would be a good idea to trouble shoot it first. Just a suggestion Dwight

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BIG problem with my Jupiter Ace

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Philip Pemberton" <philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com> > >Hi all, > I've just opened up my Jupiter Ace and I think the problem I'm having >with it is far more severe than a blown CPU. It looks like while I was >testing it this morning the PSU was accidentally powered up, the +12(unreg) >connection made contact with the barrel of the power jack (-ve) and the >PSU's -ve line made contact with one of the first five expansion bus pins on >the topside of the board. > The CPU was getting very hot - I've since swapped the original NEC D780C >(1982 datecode) with a Sharp LH0080 Z80-A-CPU IC. The replacement is also >getting hot (takes about a minute for either of them to hit 50deg C). Output >from the 7805 is 5.04V steady according to my Fluke 25 DMM. Video is being Hi 5.04 is an OK value. I wouldn't stick another Z80/780 in there until I knew that there wasn't something else connecting a bad voltage to the processor. You should first power up without the processor plugged in and measure the voltages on all of the pins. Once you've confirmed that there is no +12V or something where it shouldn't be, you can then look for drive contention issues. With the processor removed, find all of the CPU pins that control Writing and reading( I don't have a Z80 pinout handy ). Use pullups to put these into their off states ( no bus activity ). Now check the voltages on the data and address lines. Most TTL cause soft pullups to about 3.5V and any resistor pullup would bring the lines to +5V. These pullups are usually on the order of 5K or larger so you should be able to pull the line down, noticably with a 1K pull down. This will find most any of the issues with some other part that is hard driving against the bus lines. Once you are sure that there is nothing hard driving against the CPU, you could then plug it back in and look for other issues. Just plugging parts in at random would likely be a waste of time and may even do additional damage. Dwight >output and my TV can lock onto it, but the output is total garbage, no >difference if I remove the CPU and ROMs or have them installed. The garbage >is always the same, too, in case it matters. The replacement CPU is >known-good - it came out of a working Toshiba HX-10 MSX. > How should I proceed with this repair? I've got a Fluke 25 DMM and a Tek >466 storage scope at my disposal. Also, the schematics are almost >unreadable. I got them from home-micros.freeserve.co.uk. Anyone got a better >copy? > >Thanks. >-- >Phil. >philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com >http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ > >

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UK electronic scrap prices.

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>The reason - I've been made aware of a quantity of now >obsolete microprocessor equipment but I'm bidding against >the scrap man. Who knows, he may be charging for the >removal but I'd hate to lose this to him. How about ringing a couple up for "very rough quotes", explaining that you have N wotsits, each weighing M kg and see if you can get a ball-park range out of them. Alternatively, bid what it's worth to you - and if you lose, ask afterwards what the winning bid was. What sort of equipment is this? Old PCs or test gear? Antonio

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My first good find!!!

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Hi, Phil. On Dec 5, 19:46, Philip Pemberton wrote: > Peter Turnbull wrote: > > I have a spare D780C with a 1983 date code. Mail me off-list if you > > want it. > That would be great - how much would postage be? Not much, it would go in a jiffy bag with sime AS foam. > I don't suppose you've got any spare 2114 RAMs as well, have you? I think > the RAMs in my Ace may have died when I slipped with the PSU cable (oops). I have a spare pair, maybe more. How many do you need? But if you've killed it with low-voltage-that's-more-than-five volts, chances are you've fried some TTL. The NMOS will survive moderate overvoltage better than the TTL will, so you might have a bit of work on your hands. This might cost you a trip to the O2 shop ;-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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PDP11 chips on ebay

by trestivo＠concentric.net

to all, anyone interested in a set of three chips for the pdp11 visit this link... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2078019983 The chips are the 11/23 CPU ( 57-00000-01A1 ), the KEF11AA floating point ( 57-00001-01A1 ) and the Memory Management Unit ( 21-15542-01 ). These chips are assumed good and are guaranteed not DOA. Replacements available for any chip proven to be non-functional. regards, thom

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UK electronic scrap prices.

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

At 04:16 PM 12/5/02 +0000, you wrote: >I know we've been through this before but does anyone >have a handle on the going rate for scrap PCBs in the >UK? Depends on the boards and whats on them. The old 486 I think type chips are worth something like $35/lb (just chips, not boards), so boards get complicated with socketed vs soldered, and gold vs plain chips.

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Doc help for HP9000 800/G30

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I tried a google and HP website search for documentation on the 800/G30 G-Class server and could not find any. Does anyone else know were a PDF is? I would like to learn more the server I got yesterday and get it up and running. Thanks in advance for any help.

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UK electronic scrap prices.

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

I know we've been through this before but does anyone have a handle on the going rate for scrap PCBs in the UK? The reason - I've been made aware of a quantity of now obsolete microprocessor equipment but I'm bidding against the scrap man. Who knows, he may be charging for the removal but I'd hate to lose this to him. Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Vintage Ultra-Comp price list

by nemesis-lists＠icequake.net

Hi, well, I've seen some discussions back and forth around here about what things cost "back in the day", with some wildly differing figures at times. In St. Louis, we used to have a distributor named Ultra-Comp, who was in the Earth City area in Maryland Heights (by the I-70/I-270 interchange). So here's an Ultra-Comp price list of 1988 vintage: http://dbz.icequake.net/share/doc/comphist/ultracomp_prices.pdf Enjoy! (BTW, my dad bought the "Ultra Turbo-10 640 system" from them. Upgraded from a Leading Edge 256K 4.77mhz system, 1986 vintage. In 1991, I tasted a 386-40 clone for the first time, and was forever weaned from the 8086. Hehe.) -- Ryan Underwood, <nemesis at icequake.net>, icq=10317253

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SGI GDM-20D11 monitor?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I found two SGI "granite" monitors for $5 in a surplus place this morning. Does anyone know if these will work with the SGI Indigo? (XS-24 video card.) I tried them but I'm not getting any video and I'm not sure if these are both bad or if they're even supposed work with the Indigo. I checked the SGI and Indigo FAQs and can't find anything about exactly what systems the monitors are compatible with. Joe

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Santa came early

by foxvideo＠wincom.net

I just received a collection of 5 1/4" floppies from a retired computer science teacher. It consists of about three hundred C-64 software, and about five hundred PC titles. It also included a copy of Windows 1.04, box, disks and manual. Cheers Charlie Fox Charles E. Fox Video Production 793 Argyle Rd. Windsor Ontario Canada N8Y 3J8 519-254-4991 foxvideo(a)wincom.net Check out the "Camcorder Kindergarten" at http://chasfoxvideo.com

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Need information on TRSDOS 1.3 internals

by tim＠tim-mann.org

> Does anyone have any documentation on the data structures of > TRSDOS 1.3? Specifically, I'd like to know the catalog structure, > as well as the scheme for storing files across multiple sectors. I used to have that in my head, but it's fuzzed a bit over the years. When I was working for the LDOS folks in 1981, I wrote a program to read TRSDOS 1.3 diskettes and copy the files to LDOS diskettes. I don't know of a place where the TRSDOS 1.3 on-disk structures are written down, though you could try Wade Fincher's manual scans at http://www2.asub.arknet.edu/wade/operate.htm and David Keil's at http://discover-net.net/~dmkeil/trspdf.htm. The general idea is similar to other TRS-80 operating systems. The other systems are well documented (especially LDOS; see my web site), but Model III TRSDOS is different in several ways. Here's a summary of what I remember. Tracks are numbered from 0. The disks are single-sided. Sectors are numbered from 1 to 18. There are 256 bytes/sector. Tracks are divided into allocation units called granules; there are 3 sectors/granule (6 granules/track). You should find the directory on track 17 (decimal). All sectors on tracks *other* than 17 are written with a deleted data address mark (this is opposite from other TRS-80 operating systems, by the way). On track 17, sector 1 has a bitmap to show which granules are allocated. There is one byte per track. There might be a second bitmap to show which granules are locked out as defective. Towards the end of the sector is the disk name and date and the AUTO command (executed if you boot the disk). Sector 2 has a hash table that was used to help search the directory without reading all of it. You can ignore it if you're just reading the disk. The remaining sectors are full of 48-byte directory entries, with the last 16 bytes of each sector unused. The fields are similar to what's described in the LDOS documentation (http://www.tim-mann.org/trs80/doc/prgguide.pdf), but there are some differences in pesky details, like a possible off-by-1 error in the count of the number of sectors in the file. The other main difference is that the Model III TRSDOS directory entries are 16 bytes longer, so that you can have more extent pointers in the entry. Hope this helps. -- Tim Mann tim(a)tim-mann.org http://www.tim-mann.org/

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My first good find!!!

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I don't suppose you have a copy of the Jupiter Ace schematics, do you? Isn't there a set of schematics on the web? I was given a Jupiter Ace pcb a while back and it came with a set of schematics. What I'm not certain is whether this was a "real" Ace pcb (real in the sense of being a copy of the original) or whether this was the result of a build-a-lookalike-from-scratch project. Whichever the PCB is, the schematics match. Antonio

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Replacement Power Supply for old Toshiba Laptop?

by drido＠optushome.com.au

>Hello, I'm new here, and I've got a problem with an >old Laptop. I just purchased a Toshiba T5200 in a flea >market, which can be seen here... > >http://web.ukonline.co.uk/zelandeth/computers/t5200-100/ > >...and I bought it for $1! A total bargain, >but...unsurprisingly, it's broken...kinda broken. I've >opened it up to determine the cause of what's wrong >with it, as it won't turn on. A little tinkering >later, and, boom, the power supply of the Laptop fries >itself up. Damage looks bad, and it stinks really >bad...a poisonous sort of smell, so I've thrown the >offending power supply to the garbage. Now I have a >laptop...with no power supply. But, is it possible to >buy a replacement power supply for this? Or, is it >even possible to just hook it up to a regular PC's >power supply? I'm not familiar with this particular machine, but I used to have a similar 286 based machine. A noname tawianese brand, model HL3200 or some such. Designed to look like the Toshiba 3100, but with EGA and an MFM HDD. The main problem with replacing the power supply with one from a generic PC is that the original supply probably had a high voltage output to drive the plasma display. In my 286 machine it was 205V. If you use a power supply that doesn't have the 205V line you'll be able use an external monitor, but not the plasma display. Which would kind of defeat the purpose of getting it running these days. Your best bet would be find a power supply from another machine. One from a 286 based T3200 might do, as may one another machine with a plasma display if you can work out what goes where. It probably won't fit in space where the original power supply was. Either way I'd retrieve the original power supply from the garbage to work out what goes where. I had mine many years ago. I found it in a dumpster with a cracked screen and no drives. This was when back when a 286 with EGA was something special, at least to a 13 year old with no money. I got it running on an external monitor and dumped the broken plasma display. It lived out the rest its days in a plastic case that once held an apple 2 clone, a naked 5.25" FDD and a 30MB MFM HDD at it's side. I completed Leisure Suit Larry 1, Duke Nukem 1, Catacombs 3D and others on this beast before upgrading to a Wang 386-16 (a full size case with room for 2 70MB MFM HDDs with noisy bearings!) and a flaky VGA monitor with serious screen burn. A good used VGA monitor cost around AU$200 at the time so I has to settle for one removed from an old memorex terminal, but I could finally play Wolf 3D.

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Solaris 2.4

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

Bzzzt. Wrong answer. I worked at Sun in the OS group and the first release that had my code in it was Solaris 2.4. I also have bugfixes in 2.3. Solaris 1.x is the BSD-based stuff; Solaris 2.x is the SVR4-based stuff. SunOS is the OS proper and Solaris is the entire environment. SunOS 4.x went with Solaris 1.x and SunOS 5.x went with Solaris 2.x. alan ---Original Message--- From: cctech(a)classiccmp.org To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 21:51:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Solaris 2.4 At 03:39 PM 12/4/02 -0600, you wrote: > Does anyone have Solaris 2.4 CDs that they could sell or copy for me? Please > note that I am not looking to violate copyright law but I do need to get 2.4 > and not some later or earlier version of Solaris. The way I remember this, the first release that bore the "Solaris" name when released was 2.5 . Before it was called SunOS, of which the last release was 4.1.4 if I remember correctly. After Solaris 2.5, the previous SunOS 4.x releases were renamed "Solaris 2.4". I think that the list of releases that I played with at one point or another is as follows: SunOS 4.1.1 Rev B SunOS 4.1.4, aka Solaris 2.4 (or was it 4.1.3?) Solaris 2.5 Solaris 2.6 Solaris 2.7 Solaris 8 -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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SGI GDM-20D11 monitor?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 03:01 PM 12/4/02 -0500, you wrote: >On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Joe wrote: > >> I found two SGI "granite" monitors for $5 in a surplus place this >> morning. Does anyone know if these will work with the SGI Indigo? >> (XS-24 video card.) I tried them but I'm not getting any video and >> I'm not sure if these are both bad or if they're even supposed work >> with the Indigo. I checked the SGI and Indigo FAQs and can't find >> anything about exactly what systems the monitors are compatible with. > >Yeah, those should work just fine on the Indigo. > >I assume your Indigo is known operational, and that you have a suitable >cable. Do the monitors just not display a picture, or do they not even >exit power-save? I don't think it's even exiting power save. When I turn it on the power light comes on and there's a click from inside the monitor. After a few seconds the yellow power save light comes on and then I hear another click from inside the monitor. When I turn the Indigo on, it powers up and plays it's tune so I know that it's started but nothing changes on the monitor. I disconnected the video cable at the monitor and looked for sync on pin 3 and found that there was no sync* unless I started the Indigo with no monitor connected. (The sync was 63.something kHz). If I then connected the video cable to the monitor both the yellow power save and green power lights started blinking. *I don't think the lack of sync on pin 3 indicates a problem. This monitor is suppossed to Sync-on-Green. In fact, the lack of sync on 3 when I boot the computer with the monitor connected may well indicate that the computer recognizes that this monitor doesn't use a separate sync signal. The computer is definitely working. After trying these monitors I plugged the video cable into my usual monitor and everything worked exactly as it's supposed to. I was wondering, if I use a logic pulser and pulse the green input on the monitor will it generate random garbage on the screen? Any thoughts on that? Joe > >ok >r. >

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TI 990a13 available near Chicago

by vcf＠siconic.com

Is anyone interested in this? Reply to the original sender. See below for info including URL pointer to pictures. Reply-to: <reojeo(a)hotmail.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> To: "Roy Ogren" <reojeo(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: Re: TI 990a13 > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Roy Ogren wrote: > > > I have a Texas Instruments model 990/10a (990a13 chassis) and three > > manuals for such, all in very good shape from the 84/85 era. This unit > > ran off two 3 1/2" floppies and was used to diagnose Cummins diesel > > engines. I can send more info and pictures if interested. Would you be > > interested in such an animal or know someone who would be? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:05:46 -0600 From: Roy Ogren <reojeo(a)hotmail.com> To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: Re: TI 990a13 Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I'm located 25 mi. south of Chicago. This computer was bought around 1985 for around 38 thousand dollars including software and support. It was used to evaluate Cummins diesel engines by running through various sequences measuring the time and pressures it monitored and compared these values with the database loaded. the unit ran from two floppy's, I have to add the software was very buggy and the support program from Cummins engine company did not help much. I have included pictures you can access via http://reo-solutions.com/gallery/ti-990a13 . If interested please contact me. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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TI Modulators

by sugandhi＠optonline.net

You can pick up new modulators at the following URL: http://www.99er.net/rfmod.html Cheers, Ram

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Need AT&T T7525 codec data sheet (1991-1994)

by vcf＠siconic.com

I think I may have already posted this request but I am still searching for this. I need a data sheet for the AT&T T7525 codec. The document should be dated between 1991-1994, but at this point I'll take any data sheet for that chip. If anyone has this, please e-mail me directly at <sellam(a)vintage.org>. I need it by the end of the week. There i$ a reward for thi$!! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Superb Exidy System on Ebay in Holland

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 27, 0:02, Tony Duell wrote: > > The coolest item there, for me, is his Jupiter Ace. > I what sense is it 'based on the ZX81'? OK, both have Z80A processors, > both used 2114 RAMs. But [ snippage ] I didn't realise they were so different inside. I knew the Ace didn't use the ULA but I thought the basic architecture was similar to the ZX80/ZX81 (apart from the screen memory, which I knew about). There was certainly a rumour at the time that that was the case, but I dare say that was as much due to the similar size and shape of case as anything else :-) Perhaps "inspired by" is better than "based on". I have the manuals for ZX80, ZX81, and the Jupiter ACE, and the service manual for the ZX81, but the only one of those machines I possess is the common-or-garden ZX81. Twice I've just missed getting a ZX80, and I've seen a few, but I've only seen seen one ACE. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Comodore 64 / 1541 commands ???

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Hey I just got a Commodore and a 1541 floppy drive I know load "$",8 loads a catalog of what's on the disk and load "name",8 will load something from the floppy and I assume save "name",8 will save it But how do I format the disk and prepare it for use? Thanks for your help... Ron.

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HP/Dec/Sun... vs Oddballs

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Where are you??? Wicats are *COOL*!! Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Need information on TRSDOS 1.3 internals

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

Sellam, I have the set of "inside the TRS-80 xxxx" books. I'm sure that the TRSDOS 1.3 is included. I'll have a look. I can scan anything that you need. Doug Jackson Director, Managed Security Services Citadel Securix +61 (0)2 6290 9011 (Ph) +61 (0)2 6262 6152 (Fax) +61 (0)414 986 878 (Mobile) Web: <www.citadel.com.au> Offices in Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Hong Kong, Boston > -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 6:25 AM > To: Classic Computers Mailing List > Subject: Need information on TRSDOS 1.3 internals > > > > Does anyone have any documentation on the data structures of > TRSDOS 1.3? > Specifically, I'd like to know the catalog structure, as well as the > scheme for storing files across multiple sectors. > > I'm trying to pull some old word processor and perhaps > spreadsheet files > off some TRSDOS disks using a PC. I already found a utility called > READDISK that reads TRS-80 disks on a PC and it worked great. > Now I need > to extract the files from the image. > > Is this data published in any of the TRS-80 DOS manuals? > > Sellam Ismail Vintage > Computer Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > International Man of Intrigue and Danger > http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

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Solaris 2.4

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> The way I remember this, the first release that bore the "Solaris" > name when released was 2.5 . Before it was called SunOS, of which > the last release was 4.1.4 if I remember correctly. After Solaris 2.5, > the previous SunOS 4.x releases were renamed "Solaris 2.4". I think > that the list of releases that I played with at one point or another is as > follows: I suspect you're wrong, I've got a couple CD's labeled Solaris 1.[something] in my collection. I'm pretty sure I've seen 2.4 cd's before. Zane

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Reformatting TU58-Tapes, (was: HP Protocol Analyzers )

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

Eric Smith wrote: > >Anyhow, the big problem with reformatting them for use on other systems >is that there is no known way to format them back into TU58 tapes if >you ever need any. :-( > >And I could definitely use some TU58 tapes, but not if they've been >formatted into something else. > I once got a "TU58i" Monitor-program in an EPROM that replaces the original firmware of a TU58, and then should provide the ability to (re)format a TU58 or DC100 cartridge in a normal TU58 drive. Anybody ever heard of this? I still should have it somewhere around although I didn't use it myself, so I have no practical experience of it. But if anyone is interested to experiment with it, I would try to dig it out one of many boxes in my garage marked with: "interesting things, sort out some day". Frank

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Solaris 2.4

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> The way I remember this, the first release that bore the "Solaris" > name when released was 2.5 . Nope. They did start with SunOS, the last of which being V4.1.4_U1. When they moved to the Solaris name, SunOS got renamed to Solaris 1.1. The U1 release I have here is Solaris 1.1.2 for SPARC, which _is_ SunOS 4.1.4 with the U1 patch kit. I assume that Solaris 1.1.1 (which I also have, somewhere) is either SunOS 4.1.3, 4.1.3_U1 or 4.1.4 without the U1 patch. The first non-SunOS release I believe was V2.3. I have pretty much all releases of Solaris here, and I seem to start with V2.3, and then up, all the way to Solaris 8. That's when I stopped doing Sun, soo.. :) I lost (read: already deleted) the original posting, so.. can whoever started this thread contact me offlist; we'll get you V2.4 :) Cheers, Fred

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PDP-11

by kth＠srv.net

I have a PDP11/83 looking for a good home. Located in Idaho Falls, Idaho. PDP-11/83 TSV05 tape drive (and lots of tapes) TK50 tape drive DHV11's RD54 Corporate cabinet (Approx 4' x 4' x 2.5') plus other stuff. Too large/heavy to ship cheaply, much better to pick up if you live close.

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SP0256-AL2 Speech processor

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Was someone looking for one of these recently? I just turned up this reference whilst searching for something else: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1792446194 -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Replacement Power Supply for old Toshiba Laptop?

by bwfile＠yahoo.com

Hello, I'm new here, and I've got a problem with an old Laptop. I just purchased a Toshiba T5200 in a flea market, which can be seen here... http://web.ukonline.co.uk/zelandeth/computers/t5200-100/ ...and I bought it for $1! A total bargain, but...unsurprisingly, it's broken...kinda broken. I've opened it up to determine the cause of what's wrong with it, as it won't turn on. A little tinkering later, and, boom, the power supply of the Laptop fries itself up. Damage looks bad, and it stinks really bad...a poisonous sort of smell, so I've thrown the offending power supply to the garbage. Now I have a laptop...with no power supply. But, is it possible to buy a replacement power supply for this? Or, is it even possible to just hook it up to a regular PC's power supply? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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Xerox 860 IPS looking for a good home

by loki＠visi.com

Hi there, I'm not a member of the list, I found it through a Google search, but I'm trying to find a home for a Xerox 860 IPS that I have. Its been in storage for the last few years in my garage, but as far as I know it works (although I haven't turned it on in a very long time). I have the model with the portrait style screen, and I also have a daisy wheel printer, the system disks, word processing software, and the user manuals. There's even a slew of 8" disks that would go with it as well. I'd rather give this to an enthusiast, rather than just throwing it away. Its really a cool system and I think deserves better than that. I live in Saint Paul, Minnesota, so keep that in mind. This thing is hideously expensive to ship anywhere; it'd have to be picked up. Thanks, Let me know if anyone would like this beastie. Also, because I'm not on the list you should respond to my home e-mail rather than to just the list; otherwise, I won't see your response. -Pat Thielen- _______________________________________________________________ Axolotyl Studios Wildlife, Portrait and Fine Art Photography www.axolotyl-studios.com loki(a)visi.com ICQ #10509612 _______________________________________________________________ "Now that's entertainment!" -Vlad Tepes-

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OT: _spam_ (Fred N. van Kempen)

by loedman1＠juno.com

You could be correct, I have been recieving a ton of computer training spam. Rich >Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:00:01 +0100 >From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Hi all, >I have been checking some dates, and I'm quite sure that someone on >this list isn't for real, but a spam-address-collector instead. If I >post something on this list, I get spam pretty soon thereafter. And >yes, I varied my sender address (a little), and it takes over that >spelling.

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OT - Thinkpad 760CD

by jcwren＠jcwren.com

"thinkpad caddy" yields some hits. Like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2076264418 --John -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Zane H. Healy Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 16:33 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: OT - Thinkpad 760CD > You can get these drive carriers on eBay for $5 or $7. I also bought 5 3GB > drives in carriers for $50 a while back. All new, still sealed in the > antistatic envelope. A lot of ThinkPads use this same format. Any recommendation on what to search for? I wouldn't mind trying to find a second carrier as I'd like to be able to continue to use the drive I have. Zane

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OT - Thinkpad 760CD

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I've got a IBM 760CD Thinkpad that I want to try and replace the HD with a larger one that I have on hand. After looking over the laptop carefully, and trying to find info on the IBM website I'm left with one important question. How on earth do I replace a HD on this model? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Xerox 860 IPS looking for a good home

by Innfogra＠aol.com

This is a classic Xerox Word Processing system from the early 1980s. It should be saved. It sounds like it is a great setup and complete with the full page monitor and printer. It would make a great museum exhibit. We were scrapping these in 1990. There are few around. I may have some of the boot software disks in my storage although this system is complete with software and extras. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Paging Dave Mabry

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Dave, I sent a reply to you but I'm getting an error. You may need to send me another address. Joe <dmabry(a)mich.com>... Deferred: 452 Can't connect to mich.com - psmtp 451 4.4.1 reply: read error from mich.com.bignet.mail2.psmtp.com.

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BBC Domesday project

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 3, 11:46, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > >I don't know what exactly they did, but I do know that several people who > >have working laservision players offered to lend one. It's just a Philips > >laservision player, as still used by video buffs, but with a SCSI > >interface. > > > >Of course, you'd need software to make sense of the directory structure, so > >perhaps the "emulation" part was something to run the Video Filing System > >developed for the BBC Micro, or some equivalent. > If they had the player, why not use an original BBC Micro to > read things? I have no idea. Unless they needed something more sophisticated or powerful to extract all the data (a collection of still images, video, sounds, cartographic data, geophysical data, text, etc) along with the indexing, in such a way as to preserve the data, its layout, and the cross-referencing. Normal use wouldn't do that. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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8" Hard drive on PC

by aek＠spies.com

some of the possible floppy controllers in your box might be: iSBX 218 8272 (DD) iSBC 208 8237/8272 (DD) iSBC 204 8257/8271 (SD)

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8" Hard drive on PC

by aek＠spies.com

> All I'm really interested in is getting the data (mostly ASM source)on the > hard drive onto a PC. I also have boxes full (heaps!) of 8" floppies for > this system that I'd like to get the data off and over to a PC It would be helpful if you could identify the floppy interface in the system. It's probably an IBX daughter card. They are probably 1024 byte sectored MFM encoded, I assume for RMX ? HD recovery, as people have said, is more difficult.

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TI 99/4a in box available

by vcf＠siconic.com

See below. Contact original sender. Reply-to: <ggarber(a)tampabay.rr.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 19:31:05 -0500 From: Greg Garber <ggarber(a)tampabay.rr.com> Subject: old computer Hi, I found an old "Texas Instruments Home Computer 99/4A" in the attic of the house I purchased two years ago. It seems to be in pretty good condition, although I don't know if it works as I have not plugged it in. There is one game in the box. Not sure if all the cords are there, but I know the power cord is in the box. (Box is not in great shape). Anyway, if you tell me it is junk, I'll trash it. I've had it for 2 years so I can wait for you to respond. thanks...greg garber -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Old computers

by gfrajkor＠ccs.carleton.ca

Does anyone have an address and some contacts at the computer museum that NASA's Ames Research centre in California is putting together? There was an article about it in the New Scientist Magazine. Here's the reason: some time ago a museum allegedly building in Colorado approached me about taking away some old machines I have... I promised them, but nothing every came of it and the storage bills are killing me now that I am retired. I will give them away, but I do want to do it on a wholesale basis rather than piece by piece. Here's what I have: Dec PDP 11/34, two RK06 drives (was working when retired). Drives are, of course, the big washing machine ones. 11/34 is in an "executive" rack. Dec PDP ll/23, two RL02 drives, in usual tall rack. Broken pin in ribbon cable to the mini-drives used for booting and diagnosis. RL02s were working when retired. Lots of manuals and some spare platters for the drives. Quick and Timely (Seattle company) CP/M box, S100 bus. Working when last used. Matrox (Montreal company) CP/M box, with old analog-digital conversion attachment, used for scientific experiment data gathering when retired. No documentation, but some boot floppies for the above. Commodore 8296. Beautiful looks. Last Commodore entry into the 8-bit business computer field. With dual floppy drive. Some software. A few miscellaneous Atari STs. monitors, floppy drives. Since I am in Ottawa, California might be a long way to transport the stuff but since some of it seems rare now and the Ames Research centre seems intent on collecting stuff, they might be willing to pay for a truck >from here. I would appreciate advice. ahoj -- ------ Jan George Frajkor _!_ 221 Arlington Ave. --!-- Ottawa, Ontario | Canada K1R 5S8 /^\ aa003(a)ncf.ca /^\ /^\ gfrajkor(a)ccs.carleton.ca h: 613 563-4534 fax: 613 520-6690

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Microprofessr MPF-1 Manuals?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

The -IP model has a full qwerty keyboard and 20 character alphanumeric 14-segment display instead of just a keypad and 7-segment LED displays so I assume the monitor code would be significantly different. >From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: Microprofessr MPF-1 Manuals? >Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 17:07:39 -0600 > >I have a new in the box MPF-IP not sure if it's close to your IB? But in >the box is a new User's manual (170+ pages) and a Monitor Program Source >Listing manual that's 69 pages long. Just looked again and there is a >101 page Experiment manual (software/hardware) in the box also. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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