Just picked up a Dell 4066/XE 486DX2 server unit, complete. It has EISA
slots, tons of drive slots, etc...It is in a BIG case!!....
Anyone possibly have a manual for one of these? I'd like to buy one, pay
for a copy, get a scan over the net, something. With all of you that
work in corporate business someone might have one, or know of an online
text or PDF copy.
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Hi Marvin and all,
At 01:30 PM 7/11/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Attended another great swapmeet today and picked up some things I had
>been looking for.
Couid you and others that mention finds in swapmeets mention what the
swapmeet was and where it is. I know it does not help for all the stuff
already dumstered, but...
Thanks.
-Dave
> I have the adapter, and it looks to be the one made for the machine
>(i.e., not a Powerbook 140 adapter). I'm having big problems with mine -- an
>unidentified Sad Mac code (0000000F, sub code 00007FFF). I can't find a
>reference to $0F in any reference docs that I have; the codes skip from $0E
>to $10. Can't get it to boot at all. As soon as I get the Happy Mac face, I
>get the above Sad Mac. I also have a bad hard drive.
I can't find any mention of it either. And of course, if it doesn't
start up, it's awfully hard to run the diagnostic software. I never did
understand that...
I'd say the HD is the least of your problems. After all, you can always
run the system of the floppy and there is an external SCSI port. There's
a guy in Virgina who does a lot of work with Mac Portables; he has
adapters so that you can use normal SCSI HD's internally for $30. If
anybody's really interested I can probably find his name and email
somewhere.
> I'm going to research the batteries. I hear that you can rebuild the
>pack with 3 ea. 2v/5ah Gates "D" batteries which are commonly available in
>the surplus market. The packs that I have say "Gates Energy Products" on
>them.
I've heard of people rebuilding them also, though I have never tried (I
don't currently own a Portable).
Tom Owad
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>How about we try to get together like the folks in California? I would
>really love to talk to some people about old computers without having to
>endure all the jokes and elbow rising that I usually get.
^^^^^^^^
Yeah I don't get it either I meant eyebrow.
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I came across a performa 636cd, (i know, under 10 yrs by far.) but this
is a more generic question. It has a 68LC040 processor; I need a straight
68040 for NetBSD... is it possible to nab one of these from someplace and
just put it in? besides any clock speed issues & whatnot, are they all the
same "under the hood" ? or are they all different. I guess this applies to
several other systems I have, since I'm interested in upgrading other things
as well. any info appreciated. thanks!
-Eric
Hello, all:
I made another trip to Temple University yesterday to rummage through
their storehouse of old computers and documentation. I hate to post a list,
but I don't have a working web site yet, and I want everyone to know what I
have in case someone needs something.
Here it goes...
1. Mac Portable (no HD, bad batteries)
2. Many Unibus and Q-Bus boards
3. Odd DEC single-board computer. 10" x 7" labeled DEC 54-16489, Has two
84-pin PLCC chips
with the LSI LIA 0433 and 0434 marks. Has a DB25, DB15, and DB9.
Recognizable chips
include 8051, FD1796, CDP 6402 (RCA), and D7201C (NEC) Can anyone
identify this?
4. Three Motorola 68K educational computers. Has 32k RAM, 68K, 6850,
14411 chips and a
proto area. Also has two EPROMs. Any guess?
5. Three KIM-1s!! (There are one or two more left, too). Two are
MOS-labeled, one is *brand new* from
Conversational Voice Terminal Corp. of Chicago. Need data on this
one. The MOS-labeled ones
have 1976-dated ceramic chips.
6. A S-100 backplane from Forethought Products. Has 8 slots, some glue
and regulator chips.
7. Lots of documentation. A sampling...
-- Intel: MCS80/85 User Guide (1983), Memory Handbook (83), Embedded
Controller Book (88), Component Data Book (80; looks to be full-line), OEM
Boards (87), 8080/85 Assembly Language Programming Manual, Applications
Note --implementing a floppy system (1981).
-- DEC: Logic handbook (77), Microcomputer Microprocessors (78)
-- Motorola: MC68020 User Man., MEK6800 Guide, 6809 Assembly
Language, 6800 Pgmr. Ref. Manual.
-- Full documentation set for the Rockwell AIM-65 computer (user
guide, BASIC language, Programmers Manual, Hardware Manual, Monitor Program
Listing).
-- Textbooks on microprocessors by Tocci & Laskowski, and Camp, Smay
& Triska
8. Old magazines. The guy who ran the CS department before the guy I know
saved everything. Byte's going back to 1978 (too many to get this trip),
Datamation, others that I never heard of. But, the jewel is that I came
*this* close to getting the Altair issue of Popular Electronics.
Unfortulately, this guy only had as far back as 1/76. Articles include:
Cosmal Elf construction articles, SOL construction, build a Scientific
Calculator, music with the 8080, TV Typewriter, SpeechLab, Computer Club
listings, a personal microwave communications system, various
Classic-relevant product reviews and buyer's guides.
9. DEC paper tapes: PDP-11 power fail, LPS11 tests, General Test Program,
RK05 dynamic test, RK11 utilities, exerciser, static tests.
10. Complete print sets for the following: PDP 11/34A (two copies,
complete), FP11, H960 cabinet, KSI-11, DLV-11, DL-11, H9720, ET-LSI-11,
LSI-11 power supply, MS11, PC11, LPS11, MR11, M873, KD11F, RK05 (regular, F,
and J).
My plan is to scan the articles, and have an on-line database hanging
off of a web site. I also want to implement a bar code system for my
goodies. That'll take a while, though.
Anyway, thanks for the bandwidth.
Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com>
- ClubWin! Charter Member
- MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
- Preserver of "classic" computers
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I hear Apple would give these away to dealers, salesman, and others. I
missed a newton on ebay that was clear also it went for close to $400 I think.
At 03:58 PM 7/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Speaking of Mac Portables, how much would you pay for a very rare
>(prototype?) Mac Portable in a clear plastic case? I couldn't overcome my
>lack of love for Macs to pay the $300 asking price today (but somebody
>else did about an hour later).
>
>What is it with Apple and clear plastic cases anyways? I think I remember
>clear plastic Apple ]['s at dealers. Did Apple do this for all of their
>models?
>
>(BTW, instead I came home with another GRiD 1900, another HP Portable
>Plus, another Epson PX-8, and another NEC 8201A at an average cost of $6
>each. I have met my spare machine quota.)
>
>-- Doug
>
>
>
Hello, all:
Well, I began to clean up the spoils of my recent recovery mission, and
I'm having problems with the Mac Portable that I got.
Besides the hard drive and batteries being shot and the screen having a
small defect in it, I keep getting a Sad Mac code. It's code 0000000F with a
sub code of 00007FFF. I can't find a reference to the $0F code in any Sad
Mac code listings that I have (they skip over it, going from $0E to $10). I
get the code after inserting a known-working diskette. I've tried 400k disks
and 800k disks with the same results. I haven't tried a 1.44m disk yet,
since I don't have a recent Mac to create one. I've tried a 1.44m disk
created by HVFExplorer, but I get the "bad disk" message.
Also, there's a 4-position DIP switch on the mobo. What's this for? Any
ideas on the Sad Mac code?
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Do you live in TX or MN?
Francois
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>I do leave some things on purpose and sometimes by mistake (thinking I will
>come back the next day or weekend to get it, GONE).
That's because I went there in the mean time :)
>Now since I've got the
>1800 sq ft warehouse space down in Texas, I hope pull all the items from
>public storage and other places together to start selling and trading the
>dup's that I have. Right now my wife and I figure it will take me three
>months to sort it all out and that after moving 4 units of stuff from here
>in MN to Texas to go with the four units I emptied there back May.
>Bottom line is you will get chance to get some items after all. John
>At 07:45 AM 7/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
The m I think if I remember it rite takes the user in to wang's ver of
msdos, The way to get back in, hmm might have been EXIT.
the one I had had a ten meg winchester hard drive, that was some drive, I
think it was made of cast iron well, the case at any rate. It also had a
glass like cover ocovering up the iners of the harddrive.
The two 5.52 flopys wore 180 K and conected to the mother board.
It does slide out of the sleeve quite nicely, the two cards that are
conected togather are lan and mem ory combination, I think, when I removed
them I had less memory.
I found out why it wouldn't boot, it was a pin on the c p u didn't make it
in the hole, when some one tryed to plug it in, straitening the pin cracked
it off, ****! I thought about it for some time and used a peese of coper
wire to fix it, first I incerted the wire into the hole whear the broken pin
would have been once the chip was pluged in, I don't remember how I was able
to locate the hole, I don't have to tell you how tiny they are, the chip
still had a bit id the broken pin sticking out of the side of it, not enough
to solder , but enough to make a tite contact whith the coper wire, after
the chip was plugged back in I trimed itso it didn't stick up a half inchbut
just a little over the top of the chip.
It worked!
I can't remember if it booted in a wordprosesser or a menu, I think it was
a word prosessor.
I seem to remember some thing funy about the program was you couldn't quit
it , it would not let you I think it just rebooted, unless you had a flopy
in drive A:.
The not so funy thing about the monotor is the power and data cords
coming out of it both had the same plug on the end of them, and pluging the
data plug in to the power socket on the vidio card was a hasard.
Since they wore bothe the same kind of plug I tied a twist tie around the
power plug just to let me know whitch was whitch, just incase I got the ich
to use the monoter when I was writting stuff in the word prosesser.
Oh well, It was still is a great machine albeit huge!
Pete
Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Registered
Just got back I bought whatever was left in the room, it was an estate sale
and I got my van filled from floor to ceiling, I almost had to leave my wife
and kids there to get everything home:)
I got a very long list to inventory but so far:
HP 150
HP 87
HP 75C
HP 75D
Cassette unit for the above
Acousic modem for above
HP 85
Plotter 7470? with HPIB
misc printers
misc monitors
PC compatibles
Four cases (dish barrel style) of software for the above plus misc MAC
manuals (the MACs were gone :(
And more...
By the way the total put of pocket for the whole thing including yesterdays
finds $78.
I love to brag about great finds :)
Francois
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< of doing home drive repair
< >without the luxury of a clean room. Is it possible to use some sort of
< >cheaply available or easily made vacuum chamber with positive airflow
< and
< >filtering, or is it absolutely required? Can a drive be opened in room
< >air and be worked on without introducing dangerou
<
< Well, I've opened drives in room air and had them run after, but it does
< make it less reliable. It's a thing like ESD: if you want to risk it.
Not entirely true. ESD does permanent damage to the device even if it
doesn't die. ALL (that I know of) drives have an internal air filter to
pick up any dust that may appear so if the media is not damaged the air will
be cleaned and reliability should be nominal (excludes the reason for first
opening it). I have several drives I've had to open all running and all
apparently living longer than average!
Allison
I have the feeling this is the early version, because mine is the later
backlit one, which has no dip switches. The sad mac code could very
easily be due to a power problem. It will sadmac if there isn't enough
power. Note that running off the portable AC adapter is _not_ enough.
You need an additional .5 amps, whereever you get it.
>Hello, all:
>
> Well, I began to clean up the spoils of my recent recovery mission,
and
>I'm having problems with the Mac Portable that I got.
>
> Besides the hard drive and batteries being shot and the screen
having a
>small defect in it, I keep getting a Sad Mac code. It's code 0000000F
with a
>sub code of 00007FFF. I can't find a reference to the $0F code in any
Sad
>Mac code listings that I have (they skip over it, going from $0E to
$10). I
>get the code after inserting a known-working diskette. I've tried 400k
disks
>and 800k disks with the same results. I haven't tried a 1.44m disk yet,
>since I don't have a recent Mac to create one. I've tried a 1.44m disk
>created by HVFExplorer, but I get the "bad disk" message.
>
> Also, there's a 4-position DIP switch on the mobo. What's this for?
Any
>ideas on the Sad Mac code?
>
>Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com>
> - ClubWin! Charter Member
> - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
> - Preserver of "classic" computers
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>> Well things are getting harder to find and I have been spending too much
>
>Well, no kidding, John! You've bought everything up! :)
Yep everytime I come back empty handed from a flea market or big sale I
blame it on you:)
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of doing home drive repair
>without the luxury of a clean room. Is it possible to use some sort of
>cheaply available or easily made vacuum chamber with positive airflow
and
>filtering, or is it absolutely required? Can a drive be opened in room
>air and be worked on without introducing dangerou
Well, I've opened drives in room air and had them run after, but it does
make it less reliable. It's a thing like ESD: if you want to risk it.
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Well, the cpu on this mac is socketed, i *could* just pop it out- in fact it
resembles an intel type chip very much. that's what really piqued my
interest.
-Eric
From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: can I use any 68040 chip in a mac ?
>>just put it in? besides any clock speed issues & whatnot, are they all the
>>same "under the hood" ? or are they all different. I guess this applies to
>>several other systems I have, since I'm interested in upgrading other
things
>>as well. any info appreciated. thanks!
>>
>>-Eric
>
>It requires a special accelerator board to change the CPU on a Mac. It's
>my guess that at best it wouldn't work, at worst it would fry something.
>
>However, can't you add an FPU to the Performa? I seem to remember that you
>can do such things, but...
>It requires a special accelerator board to change the CPU on a Mac. It's
>my guess that at best it wouldn't work, at worst it would fry something.
There's also the program 'SoftFPU' (or something like that) which
emulates an FPU. Slow, but it works.
Tom
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Well things are getting harder to find and I have been spending too much
time and money on ebay. The following is ashort list as the number of
books, manuals, hats, and other computer related items is too large to list
it all here.
1) Mac Color Classic not 10 years yet but a must have for my collection of
Mac's (I'm going for 103 different models '84 to '94)
2) New unopened Sun Interactive UNIX software from Half price books 24.95
3) TRS80 4/4P manual set
4) Atari Portfolio complete with case, 128k module, two sofeware packages,
serial cable and unit, manuals, and product sheets. It works great.
5) Newton fax modem
6) Sharp PC-7000 lunchbox style computer
7) Victor VPC11 model 2601-1
8) Eagle PC model PC-2
9) Cordata model PC-400-25
10) Covalent 2086 CPU Shop System a full tower unit not tested yet
11) Some Atari 400/800 cassette software all new in boxes from .60 to 1.60
each
12) Several boxes of new software for the Apple IIgs
13) Atari SC1224 monitor .80
14) Atari FD drives models SF354 (single) and SF314 (double)
15) Apple IIc power supply not tested
16) Several Atari power supplies
17) Ashton-tate Step IV Ward software and manual
18) HP 9133H
19) HP 9122 model D
20) Perkin-Elmer 7700 Professional computer and KB no monitor
21) HP 9130A
22) HP 2671G printer
23) Lexas Turbo 2400 mini modem
24) 8-Mac Plus KB's will be trading some of these
25) 6-Mac 128k KB'S
26) 10-2600 cartridges
27) TI Terminal Emulator II module
That's all for now will list some of the other items later. Keep computing
John
Any chance of getting a KIM?
Dave
> ----------
> From: Richard A. Cini, Jr.[SMTP:rcini@email.msn.com]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: July 10, 1998 1:20 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Oh, boy. What a haul!
>
> Hello, all:
>
> I made another trip to Temple University yesterday to rummage through
> their storehouse of old computers and documentation. I hate to post a
> list,
> but I don't have a working web site yet, and I want everyone to know what
> I
> have in case someone needs something.
>
> Here it goes...
>
> 1. Mac Portable (no HD, bad batteries)
> 2. Many Unibus and Q-Bus boards
> 3. Odd DEC single-board computer. 10" x 7" labeled DEC 54-16489, Has
> two
> 84-pin PLCC chips
> with the LSI LIA 0433 and 0434 marks. Has a DB25, DB15, and DB9.
> Recognizable chips
> include 8051, FD1796, CDP 6402 (RCA), and D7201C (NEC) Can anyone
> identify this?
> 4. Three Motorola 68K educational computers. Has 32k RAM, 68K, 6850,
> 14411 chips and a
> proto area. Also has two EPROMs. Any guess?
> 5. Three KIM-1s!! (There are one or two more left, too). Two are
> MOS-labeled, one is *brand new* from
> Conversational Voice Terminal Corp. of Chicago. Need data on this
> one. The MOS-labeled ones
> have 1976-dated ceramic chips.
> 6. A S-100 backplane from Forethought Products. Has 8 slots, some glue
> and regulator chips.
> 7. Lots of documentation. A sampling...
> -- Intel: MCS80/85 User Guide (1983), Memory Handbook (83),
> Embedded
> Controller Book (88), Component Data Book (80; looks to be full-line), OEM
> Boards (87), 8080/85 Assembly Language Programming Manual, Applications
> Note --implementing a floppy system (1981).
> -- DEC: Logic handbook (77), Microcomputer Microprocessors (78)
> -- Motorola: MC68020 User Man., MEK6800 Guide, 6809 Assembly
> Language, 6800 Pgmr. Ref. Manual.
> -- Full documentation set for the Rockwell AIM-65 computer (user
> guide, BASIC language, Programmers Manual, Hardware Manual, Monitor
> Program
> Listing).
> -- Textbooks on microprocessors by Tocci & Laskowski, and Camp,
> Smay
> & Triska
> 8. Old magazines. The guy who ran the CS department before the guy I
> know
> saved everything. Byte's going back to 1978 (too many to get this trip),
> Datamation, others that I never heard of. But, the jewel is that I came
> *this* close to getting the Altair issue of Popular Electronics.
> Unfortulately, this guy only had as far back as 1/76. Articles include:
> Cosmal Elf construction articles, SOL construction, build a Scientific
> Calculator, music with the 8080, TV Typewriter, SpeechLab, Computer Club
> listings, a personal microwave communications system, various
> Classic-relevant product reviews and buyer's guides.
> 9. DEC paper tapes: PDP-11 power fail, LPS11 tests, General Test
> Program,
> RK05 dynamic test, RK11 utilities, exerciser, static tests.
> 10. Complete print sets for the following: PDP 11/34A (two copies,
> complete), FP11, H960 cabinet, KSI-11, DLV-11, DL-11, H9720, ET-LSI-11,
> LSI-11 power supply, MS11, PC11, LPS11, MR11, M873, KD11F, RK05 (regular,
> F,
> and J).
>
> My plan is to scan the articles, and have an on-line database hanging
> off of a web site. I also want to implement a bar code system for my
> goodies. That'll take a while, though.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the bandwidth.
>
> Rich Cini/WUGNET <nospam_rcini(a)msn.com>
> - ClubWin! Charter Member
> - MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
> - Preserver of "classic" computers
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> From: dave dameron <ddameron(a)earthlink.net>
> Subject: Intel bubble memory modules
>
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>
> They also had a Commodore 64, beige with dark keys, modified with 2 BNC
> jacks on the back. I could find no documentation that went with it. Their
> price was $10 USD.
> -Dave
My first thought for the 2 BNCs would be a Stereo SID (sound chip)
modification. That is a popular hardware mod that adds a second SID
sythesizer chip to the 64 so you can have 2 channel, 6 voice stereo. There
are a few music writer programs and players and a game or two that support it.
Usually the mod has RCA type jacks though...
Pretty cool if you like the 64 sound output (which is really good for an 8-bitter).
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Hi,
Great day today, I found:
Zenith ZT1, aparently it is a phone terminal and has the manual to connect
to compuserve. Is it also useable as a computer? I have the manual but it's
burried at the moment.
HP 97 brand new in the box and it seems to be working fine. I'm charging the
battery right now to check it. Standard pack and business decision pack plus
a bag of programming sheets
Text editing, math, Visicalc Plus and owners manuals for the HP85
HP thermal printer with HPIL interface (HP 82162A) what is that for? is it
tfor the HP 75?
HP82901M Dual 5.25" flexible disk drive with HPIB interface. I believe it is
for the HP85
Box of five blank tapes for the HP 85
HP110 laptop computer (8086 or so) with MS-DOS 2.0 in ROM With manual and
lotus 123 complete.
2 HP9114 3.5" disk drives for the HP 110 with manual charger and HPIL cables
HP 2225A Think jet with HPIL interface for the HP 110
On the sad side I had to pass on an Original MAC M0001, a MAC SE, SE/30 the
HP 85 (already have 2) a box of thermal paper for the HP85, a commodore
calculator and loads of softwares for the HP 85 and 150 series and a bunch
of unrecognized boxes (probably compatibles) I'm really thinking about going
back tomorrow If I can get the OK from above:)
Francois
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As I told Tony Duell a day or two ago, I would list the modules residing in
my 11/730. Point being to compare machines for completeness/options and to
get feedback from list members to learn more about what both of us have
exactly.
I would like to fully restore this machine to it's original completeness
although not necessarily its original options/configuration. I'm missing
front/rear doors, some hardware, a few modules, misc. items and the
all-important TU58 tape which has the bootup microcode(!). Hopefully a
fellow who responded privately can find some docs and cabinet parts that he
might have which will help for sure. I'll be looking for the rest though.
The main problem I have found with the module list is that there are no
references in the Field Guide for these particular 11/730 modules. Maybe
because the Guide was for *only* Q-bus and UNIBUS modules and these don't
fall into that classification *or* simply the info for these modules was
not at hand when the FG was put together. I'm working on that now with a
fellow who emailed me in reference to a more up-to-date FG. Any input from
the group is welcome of course.
Here's the list of modules, in order of slot number, in the 730 as I
received it:
1. empty
2. empty
3. empty
4. M8390 (-B?)
5. empty
6. M8391 MCT
7. M8394
8. M8750-CP
9. M8750-CP
10. M8396
11. M8396
12. G7273
13. G7273
14. empty
No expansion backplane is installed presently. I think it may have been
taken out as there is reference on the module list printed on the CPU cover
which shows a 9-slot DD11-DK Unibus Expander Backplane installed in the
left side of the crate.
I have not dug into either of the BA11 crates I have in the pile yet but
would the 9-slot expansion backplanes in these actually be the DD11-DK? Is
"DD11-DK" marked anywhere on them?
The Ethernet cable is also hanging loose in the crate. Either a single
board Ethernet I/F was in slot 14 or the 2-board DEUNA or equivalent was in
two slotts of the DD11-DK expansion.
For the sake of comparison with what the factory-original module compliment
says, I will note in quotes ("") what's on the CPU cover label:
1. "Not used"
2. "M8389 FPA (Option)" (must be a floating pt. adaptor)
3. "Not used"
4. "M8390 DAP"
5. "Not used"
6. "M8391-YA or M8391 MCT"
7. "M8394 WCS"
8. "MS730-CA"
9. "MS730-CA"
10. "G7273/Memory"
11. "G7273/Not for Unibus Option"
12. "G7273/Not for Unibus Option"
13. "G7273/Unibus Option"
14. "M9202" (and) "G7273/Unibus Option"
<end 11/730-A CPU listing>
<begin DD11-DK backplane listing>
1. "M9202" (bridge from slot 14, above) "G727"
2. "G727"
| | (all 9 slots have G727's listed)
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9. "M9302" (and) "G727"
Hmmm, if I either have a DD11-DK in a BA11 or something around here or if I
could find one amongst list members, then I could hang Unibus options off
this machine :) Cool!
Anyway, my guess is that I don't have too far to go to restore this box
with help from folks here. Tony would benefit too regarding his own 730.
And yes, I understand it is a true dog as to performance. But it was
mentioned by Allison correctly that at least this is a "real iron" VAX
which will fit in a room and power requirements are low enough to be rather
tolerable. Recall I have a space problem here. I saw a picture and weight
(1k+ lbs) of a 11/780. The wife would shoot me if I had one to keep out of
that truckload <g>.
Thanks again for the help. Regards,
--Chris
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Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
In looking at the RK07 and RL01/02 drives that I have from the Great Haul,
the connectors and cables look rather similar.
In the 11/34A I am keeping, there is a five-board set which is the RK611
controller. The previous owner had RK07's hung off this controller. I want
to use at least one RL02 in the system as most of the disk packs with the
important s/w are RL01/02. Anybody know if the RLs will work off the RK611
controller? (This is one of those dumb newbie questions!)
If it won't work, anybody have a spare RL11 controller module (M7762)
they'll let go? There's a heap of RL's (7) in the stuff I got but the only
machine in the whole pile that has an RL11 is the 11/24 which is not going
to be kept by me.
What would the cable run limits be on either the RL11 or RK611 systems?
As someone had told me a bit earlier about SDI systems, only ODD number of
cables must be used. Any such limitation here?
Thanks for your input!
--Chris
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Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.ggw.org/freenet/a/awa/
I finally went back to check on that "Wang PC-002" I asked about earlier.
It was a bit more scratched up, but it hadn't moved an inch in the past
two and a half(?) weeks.
I managed to locate its keyboard, as well as the keyboard for an aparently
keyboardless Tandy 1000TX that was in another part of the building, so I
decided to drag the Wang machine home.
NOT an easy job. It was about a mile to the nearest subway station, with
lots of broken escalators up and down once I got into the system. And I
was carrying a large book bag full of stuff I have to look over for work.
By the time the bus dropped me off near home, we were in the middle of a
thunder storm. So I left the computer on top of someone's gate post (wide
brick thing with flat cement top) under some trees near the bus stop, and
made a run for home (about a half-mile).
I went back with the car as soon as I got home.
Anyway, it sure is a curious beast. And HUGE, to my eyes. It's not quite
as big as I reported before, but it's BIG. The closest offhand and
possibly innacurate comparison I could make is to a friend's MicroVax, but
I don't know what kind of MicroVax that is.
If I sit it vertically (a position the box looks very comfortable in), it
measures about 15" high, by 6.5" wide, by 23" long.
It has two floppy drives mounted in the front: one half-height 5.25"
drive, and one full-hieght 5.25" drive.
In the back, I can see the backs of various cards. One of them has the
connector for the keyboard (4-pin DIN) as well as one serial and one
parallel port, so it must be the motherboard. Beside that (or above,
depending on orientation) is a board with a sticker reading "PM032-B 512K
Memory Expansion". Next to that, is what appears to be an empty slot, and
then there is what appears to be some kind of networking card. It has two
coaxial cable connectors and a toggle switch. There is another card
beside (or above) that, with no ports or labels, but I can see chips
through the air holes. Beside (or above) the mystery card is a board with
a label reading "PM101 IBM Mono Emulation". It has an 8-pin DIN connector
and a 5-pin DIN connector, which I would guess are for monitor and PC
keyboard(?).
Does anyone know the pinouts of the various ports, or anything else about
this machine? Will it read PC disks or do I need to boot it up with some
wacky Wang-format disk? Does the machine require some kind of terminal,
or will a monitor connect into the back of the IBM Emulation board and let
me see what's going on?
The sticker on the side (top) of the machine says it's a PC-002, but the
sticker on the back says it's a PC-P002.
The keyboard has a lot of word processing functions on it.
Anyway, I haven't opened it up yet, or done anything with it but look at
it. Disassembly looks like it might be difficult, because I have to slip
the innards through the full length metal sleeve. I won't be up to that
until my arms recover. I've even got bruises and some kind of blood
blisters or something, from carrying that thing. :/
I probably won't have time to play with it today as I promised to install
NetBSD 1.3.2 and some UNIX software on my Amiga 3000 instead of coming to
work. (And look at the time. :) )
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
