From CLASSICCMP@trailing-edge.com Mon Nov 23 10:24:26 1998
From: CLASSICCMP@trailing-edge.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: 85mb Micropolis in a Microvax II?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:24:26 +0000
Message-ID: <981123112426.2a2002ef@trailing-edge.com>
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>doable but, near unimplementable do to the lack of Qbus.  The more common 
>situation is unsupported, IE: DEC didn't consider it marketable or test 
>it exactly that way.  Two RDxx disks in a ba123 is an example.

Two RD5x's in a BA123 was definitely a supported configuration, and is
listed in the late-80's DEC catalogs.

Two RD3x (half-height) disks in a BA23 is also supported, and indeed is 
the reason behind the 6-button BA23 front panel.  Many 11/53
configurations were shipped from the factory this way.

Two full-height hard drives in a single BA23 was never officially supported
(at least for the various microPDP-11 configurations), because
they refused to support a base box sold without removable media.

Tim. (shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com)

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From marvin@rain.org Mon Nov 23 11:09:47 1998
From: marvin@rain.org
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Heathkit H11
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:09:47 +0000
Message-ID: <365996DB.A7BDA86C@rain.org>
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I received this message a while ago, and when I contacted him, he was not
interested in shipping this stuff so it would need to be picked up. Perhaps
someone back there can see if he is still interested in selling the stuff. 
I am just quoting the original message along with his first response.  


Subject: Old Heath Kit Computer that used paper tapes
Date: Mon, Oct 19, 1998 16:21 EDT
From: <A HREF="aol://3548:W1uki">W1uki</A>
Message-id: <19981019162105.26749.00000032(a)ng150.aol.com>

best offer over $50
               (    w1uki(a)aol.com   )


Hello Marvin,
]    Nice hearing from another Ham .
     Just checked to what i have on the Heath Kit.
     H9 Video Terminal
     H10 Paper System
     H11 Digital Computer
     Some Heath users Group Books
     Could not find any of the paper tapes at this time
                                           w1uki(a)aol.com

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From zmerch@30below.com Mon Nov 23 11:28:34 1998
From: zmerch@30below.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Heathkit H11
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:28:34 +0000
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Uh... Pick-up from where???

If it's Michigan, I might be able to do it...

Thanks,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger


Once upon a midnight dreary, Marvin had spoken clearly:
>I received this message a while ago, and when I contacted him, he was not
>interested in shipping this stuff so it would need to be picked up. Perhaps
>someone back there can see if he is still interested in selling the stuff. 
>I am just quoting the original message along with his first response.  
>
>
>Subject: Old Heath Kit Computer that used paper tapes
>Date: Mon, Oct 19, 1998 16:21 EDT
>From: <A HREF="aol://3548:W1uki">W1uki</A>
>Message-id: <19981019162105.26749.00000032(a)ng150.aol.com>
>
>best offer over $50
>               (    w1uki(a)aol.com   )
>
>
>Hello Marvin,
>]    Nice hearing from another Ham .
>     Just checked to what i have on the Heath Kit.
>     H9 Video Terminal
>     H10 Paper System
>     H11 Digital Computer
>     Some Heath users Group Books
>     Could not find any of the paper tapes at this time
>                                           w1uki(a)aol.com
>
>

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From jimw@agora.rdrop.com Mon Nov 23 13:11:52 1998
From: jimw@agora.rdrop.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Heathkit H11
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:11:52 +0000
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95.981123111031.28773A-100000@agora.rdrop.com>
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On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Marvin wrote:

> I received this message a while ago, and when I contacted him, he was not
> interested in shipping this stuff so it would need to be picked up. Perhaps
> someone back there can see if he is still interested in selling the stuff. 
> I am just quoting the original message along with his first response.  
> 
> 
> Subject: Old Heath Kit Computer that used paper tapes
> Date: Mon, Oct 19, 1998 16:21 EDT
> From: <A HREF="aol://3548:W1uki">W1uki</A>
> Message-id: <19981019162105.26749.00000032(a)ng150.aol.com>
> 
> best offer over $50
>                (    w1uki(a)aol.com   )
> 
> 
> Hello Marvin,
> ]    Nice hearing from another Ham .
>      Just checked to what i have on the Heath Kit.
>      H9 Video Terminal
>      H10 Paper System
>      H11 Digital Computer
>      Some Heath users Group Books
>      Could not find any of the paper tapes at this time
>                                            w1uki(a)aol.com

AARGH!!!  I want the H-10!!!  (snivel, whimper...)

Bribery perhaps? (for shipping that is)

-jim
---
jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com
The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw
Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

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From hydros_by_hall@csi.com Thu Dec  3 00:07:46 1998
From: hydros_by_hall@csi.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 00:07:46 +0000
Message-ID: <366629f7.50319838@smtp.site1.csi.com>
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I recently picked up a Compaq SLT/286 and would like to purchase any
documentation for it. Anybody have docs for a reasonable price?
Thanks,
Richard Hall



Apple II educational software http://members.xoom.com/AV_Systems

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From rhblake@bigfoot.com Thu Dec  3 14:40:24 1998
From: rhblake@bigfoot.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 14:40:24 +0000
Message-ID: <3666F737.3D1FEB35@bigfoot.com>
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What do you need to know? The memory is a special type SIMM available in
1 or 4mb versions and up to 3 can be added. The video modes can be
switched with ALT > and ALT < if you want to hook up an external
monitor. The hard drive is a stock IDE 3.5" but only certain capacities
will work and it must have the small 3 pin power plug on it to
accomodate the power adapter of the machine. I think I used a Seagate
ST-3144 120mb drive in my last one and set it for type 26. It does need
a setup disk, available at the out of production site at
http://www.compaq.com/support/portables/out_of_production/SLT286.html .
To open the unit you have to remove the covers on the right side of the
hinge (as you sit using it) to gain access to the ground and keyboard
connections. Then you remove the 6 screws on the back, remove the
battery. Pull the ground and keyboard connections at the cover point out
carefully. Then just push the guts out by way of the battery compartment
until you have the video cable holding you up. Remove the single screw
holding down the cable and then pull the video connector out and swing
to the side. Pull the guts fully out where you can work on it.

The hard drive and floppy drive are stock types and the
removal/installation is a no-brainer. The memory is located under the
cover that has the LED's located between the drives in the front of the
motherboard. The modem (if installed) has 2 or 3 screws holding it and
just pulls out after the screws are removed.

The screen is 640x480 VGA monochrome but better results show if you
install software as color vga. Many other features such as screen blank
are settable by way of the setup disk.

So what did you need to know? <g> Drop me a d irect note if you need any
further help.

Russ Blakeman
Harned, KY

Richard A. Hall wrote:

> I recently picked up a Compaq SLT/286 and would like to purchase any
> documentation for it. Anybody have docs for a reasonable price?
> Thanks,
> Richard Hall
>
> Apple II educational software http://members.xoom.com/AV_Systems

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From kurtkilg@geocities.com Thu Dec  3 15:00:57 1998
From: kurtkilg@geocities.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 15:00:57 +0000
Message-ID: <98120316020302.00293@localhost.localdomain>
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You should check out Compaq's site, it has some interesting stuff in .PDF
format (mostly). That said, if anyone has docs for a Compaq LTE/Lite-25, I'd =
be
glad to buy them too.

On Thu, 03 Dec 1998, you wrote:
>I recently picked up a Compaq SLT/286 and would like to purchase any
>documentation for it. Anybody have docs for a reasonable price?
>Thanks,
>Richard Hall
>
>
>
>Apple II educational software http://members.xoom.com/AV_Systems

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From rhblake@bigfoot.com Fri Dec  4 13:16:13 1998
From: rhblake@bigfoot.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 13:16:13 +0000
Message-ID: <366834FC.E6B5A7B@bigfoot.com>
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Max...I have a docking station, model 2815, that's supposed to fit the LTE/LT=
E lite
series for sale. Check your info to be sure it would work for your machine an=
d if
it will and you might be interested, contact me. It is in great shape and wil=
l give
you added network or other interface as well as a place for 2 drives or such.=
 I had
it sold on eBay but after 3 weeks of waiting for payment I relisted it (but c=
an
pull it if this might be useful to you).

Russ
rhblake(a)bigfoot.com

Max Eskin wrote:

> You should check out Compaq's site, it has some interesting stuff in .PDF
> format (mostly). That said, if anyone has docs for a Compaq LTE/Lite-25, I'=
d be
> glad to buy them too.
>
> On Thu, 03 Dec 1998, you wrote:
> >I recently picked up a Compaq SLT/286 and would like to purchase any
> >documentation for it. Anybody have docs for a reasonable price?
> >Thanks,
> >Richard Hall
> >
> >
> >
> >Apple II educational software http://members.xoom.com/AV_Systems

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From kurtkilg@geocities.com Fri Dec  4 14:57:36 1998
From: kurtkilg@geocities.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 14:57:36 +0000
Message-ID: <98120415581102.00312@localhost.localdomain>
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On Fri, 04 Dec 1998, you wrote:
>Max...I have a docking station, model 2815, that's supposed to fit the LTE/L=
TE lite
>series for sale. Check your info to be sure it would work for your machine a=
nd if
>it will and you might be interested, contact me. It is in great shape and wi=
ll give
>you added network or other interface as well as a place for 2 drives or such=
. I had
>it sold on eBay but after 3 weeks of waiting for payment I relisted it (but =
can
>pull it if this might be useful to you).
>
>Russ
>rhblake(a)bigfoot.com

Oh, yes, yes, yes! How much?=20
Russ: 200$
<frown>

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From hydros_by_hall@csi.com Sat Dec  5 10:22:26 1998
From: hydros_by_hall@csi.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 10:22:26 +0000
Message-ID: <366a5c90.2890285@smtp.site1.csi.com>
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Russ,
Thanks to you and others for the info. Your message caused me to re-visit
Compaq's site and I now have a setup disk. I have now set the options to leave
the modem off at startup. How does one turn it back on without using setup?
Thanks again
Richard Hall

On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 14:40:24 -0600, you wrote:

>What do you need to know? The memory is a special type SIMM available in
>1 or 4mb versions and up to 3 can be added. The video modes can be
snip
.
>
>Russ Blakeman
>Harned, KY
>

old hydroplane photos http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hydros_by_hall/

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From jpero@pop.cgocable.net Sat Dec  5 19:51:47 1998
From: jpero@pop.cgocable.net
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 19:51:47 +0000
Message-ID: <199812060645.BAA02598@mail.cgocable.net>
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> Date:          Sun, 06 Dec 1998 05:45:31 GMT
> Reply-to:      classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> From:          hydros_by_hall(a)csi.com (Richard A. Hall)
> To:            "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(=
a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject:       Re: Compaq SLT/286

> No go Russ, I tried the ATA both from Dos and from Procomm Plus. I also tri=
es
> "+++" to no avail. Any other Ideas?
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:00:58 -0600, you wrote:
>=20
> >You may try sending the string ECHO ATA >COMx    (x is the comport number)=
 at the
> >DOS prompt to see if it wakes up and makes a hellacious scream (that will =
quit in
> >a few seconds). If so then the modem will stay asleep until an intializati=
on
> >string is sent to it.
> >
>=20

I have read many compaq manuals,  you need to d/l the utilities from
compaq and use I think mode program is what does that or something=20
like that.

www.compaq.com, site guide, support resources, portables, out=20
of production, select SLT 286.

Oh rats, no utilities easier enough to find for that poor guy! :( =20
any solutions?

Jason D.=20

Still user of parted out and breaking down LTE 386s/20 and former=20
owner of SLT 286 and 386s/20, soon to be a new owner of Aero 4/25!
email: jpero(a)cgocable.net
Pero, Jason D.

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From rhblake@bigfoot.com Sat Dec  5 22:00:58 1998
From: rhblake@bigfoot.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:00:58 +0000
Message-ID: <366A0179.4796CBD2@bigfoot.com>
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You may try sending the string ECHO ATA >COMx    (x is the comport number) at=
 the
DOS prompt to see if it wakes up and makes a hellacious scream (that will qui=
t in
a few seconds). If so then the modem will stay asleep until an intialization
string is sent to it.

Richard A. Hall wrote:

> Russ,
> Thanks to you and others for the info. Your message caused me to re-visit
> Compaq's site and I now have a setup disk. I have now set the options to le=
ave
> the modem off at startup. How does one turn it back on without using setup?
> Thanks again
> Richard Hall
>
> On Thu, 03 Dec 1998 14:40:24 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >What do you need to know? The memory is a special type SIMM available in
> >1 or 4mb versions and up to 3 can be added. The video modes can be
> snip
> .
> >
> >Russ Blakeman
> >Harned, KY
> >
>
> old hydroplane photos http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hydros_by_ha=
ll/

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From hydros_by_hall@csi.com Sat Dec  5 23:45:31 1998
From: hydros_by_hall@csi.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 23:45:31 +0000
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No go Russ, I tried the ATA both from Dos and from Procomm Plus. I also tries
"+++" to no avail. Any other Ideas?


On Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:00:58 -0600, you wrote:

>You may try sending the string ECHO ATA >COMx    (x is the comport number) a=
t the
>DOS prompt to see if it wakes up and makes a hellacious scream (that will qu=
it in
>a few seconds). If so then the modem will stay asleep until an intialization
>string is sent to it.
>

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From rhblake@bigfoot.com Mon Dec  7 13:32:16 1998
From: rhblake@bigfoot.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 13:32:16 +0000
Message-ID: <366C2D3E.9D9CB8FA@bigfoot.com>
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Did you try Com1, Com2, Com3, Com4? There is a serial port int he machine as =
well and
you may accidentally set them both to the same port as well. Take a deep brea=
th and
look back over the config info with the setup disk. You may also have a DOA m=
odem,
that's a slight chance.

Richard A. Hall wrote:

> No go Russ, I tried the ATA both from Dos and from Procomm Plus. I also tri=
es
> "+++" to no avail. Any other Ideas?
>
> On Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:00:58 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >You may try sending the string ECHO ATA >COMx    (x is the comport number)=
 at the
> >DOS prompt to see if it wakes up and makes a hellacious scream (that will =
quit in
> >a few seconds). If so then the modem will stay asleep until an intializati=
on
> >string is sent to it.
> >

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From hydros_by_hall@csi.com Mon Dec  7 14:35:15 1998
From: hydros_by_hall@csi.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: Compaq SLT/286
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 14:35:15 +0000
Message-ID: <366f3976.12766317@smtp.site1.csi.com>
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Russ,
I verified, using the diagnostics on the setup disk, that the modem is on com
2 and irq 3. The modem works flawlessly if I use setup to cause the modem to
be on at startup. If the modem is set to "off" at startup nothing but the
diagnostics program will turn it on. Procomm Plus locks up in this condition.
I suspect that there was originally a program called "modem" or something
similar. A command line like "modem on" was probably required. The diagnostics
program, however, is able to wake the modem up for testing.
Thanks,
Richard Hall

On Mon, 07 Dec 1998 13:32:16 -0600, you wrote:

>Did you try Com1, Com2, Com3, Com4? There is a serial port int he machine as=
 well and
>you may accidentally set them both to the same port as well. Take a deep bre=
ath and
>look back over the config info with the setup disk. You may also have a DOA =
modem,
>that's a slight chance.
>
>Richard A. Hall wrote:
>
>> No go Russ, I tried the ATA both from Dos and from Procomm Plus. I also tr=
ies
>> "+++" to no avail. Any other Ideas?
>>
>> On Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:00:58 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>> >You may try sending the string ECHO ATA >COMx    (x is the comport number=
) at the
>> >DOS prompt to see if it wakes up and makes a hellacious scream (that will=
 quit in
>> >a few seconds). If so then the modem will stay asleep until an intializat=
ion
>> >string is sent to it.
>> >
>

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