From allisonp@world.std.com Fri Feb 11 20:44:49 2000
From: allisonp@world.std.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: how do I decode 157.55.85.212 to a url?
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:44:49 +0000
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Thanks everyone.

I'm getting spammed and it's apparently from the opt-in thing that I'd 
never opt-into!

Any solid suggestion how to shut this down.  I firmly believe the "remove"
in these is fake or worse address validation.  I wonder if the whole
remove this is bogus.

Allison

For example...
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You received this copy as a subscriber to our opt-in email list.
If you no longer wish to receive solicitations simply unsubscribe by
clicking here: http://www.postmasternetwork.net/remove
<a href="http://www.postmasternetwork.net/remove">Unsubscribe</a>
............................................................................

That's right.  

This week more.com is offering a 6-pack of Ultra Slim Fast for $1 and
our ever-popular $1 mystery item. 

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From af-list@wfi-inc.com Fri Feb 11 21:02:53 2000
From: af-list@wfi-inc.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: how do I decode 157.55.85.212 to a url?
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:02:53 +0000
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In my experience, the best course of action is simply to filter it out.
Responses do indeed verify that your address is valid; I once made the
mistake of doing just that, and it took about a week before I was getting
10x the amount of spam I had been previously.

The best proactive method of dealing with it is to report the forward the
message, with all the headers, to either spam(a)originatingdomain.com or
abuse(a)originatingdomain.com. I have to admit that I'm usually too lazy to
do this; the spam filters on the company's mail server do a good enough
job that I might get 2-3 spam messages per day at the most (as compared to
10-15 on my old earthlink account).

Cheers,

Aaron

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Allison J Parent wrote:

> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> I'm getting spammed and it's apparently from the opt-in thing that I'd 
> never opt-into!
> 
> Any solid suggestion how to shut this down.  I firmly believe the "remove"
> in these is fake or worse address validation.  I wonder if the whole
> remove this is bogus.
> 
> Allison
> 
> For example...
> ***************************************************************************
> You received this copy as a subscriber to our opt-in email list.
> If you no longer wish to receive solicitations simply unsubscribe by
> clicking here: http://www.postmasternetwork.net/remove
> <a href="http://www.postmasternetwork.net/remove">Unsubscribe</a>
> ............................................................................
> 
> That's right.  
> 
> This week more.com is offering a 6-pack of Ultra Slim Fast for $1 and
> our ever-popular $1 mystery item. 
> 
> ****************************************************************************
> 

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From thompson@mail.athenet.net Fri Feb 11 22:18:30 2000
From: thompson@mail.athenet.net
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: OT Re: how do I decode 157.55.85.212 to a url?
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:18:30 +0000
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There is an excellent resource in abuse.net http://www.abuse.net

I believe it is run by the acting moderator of comp.dcom.telecom

A brief excerpt from its FAQ

HOW DOES ABUSE.NET WORK ?

Once you've registered, when you send a message to an address at
abuse.net, the system here automatically re-mails your message to the
best reporting address(es) we know for the domain you want to send to.
If, say, you wanted to send mail to example.com, the address would be
example.com(a)abuse.net.

It's up to you to figure out what the appropriate domain is.  See
http://spam.abuse.net/others/sites.html for some links to mail
analysis advice.

For many domains the contact address is postmaster@<domain>, for some
it's abuse@<domain>, for some it's something else.  Some particularly
unpleasant domains ignore all their mail; when we're aware of that we
use the address for their next-level-up provider.

* Send a copy of the entire abusive message, including all of the
header lines, particularly the "Received:" lines.  (Many mail programs
including Pine and Eudora don't show or send all the headers unless
you specifically tell them to.)  If the message is very long, you can
cut off the message in the middle, so long as you're sure you're
sending all the headers.

* Be polite and to the point.

* Don't make any threats unless you intend to carry them out.  In
particular, don't threaten people under the junk fax law (47 USC 227)
unless you actually plan to take them to small claims court; even
responsible ISPs are really tired of this vacuous threat.

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Aaron Christopher Finney wrote:

> In my experience, the best course of action is simply to filter it out.
> Responses do indeed verify that your address is valid; I once made the
> mistake of doing just that, and it took about a week before I was getting
> 10x the amount of spam I had been previously.
> 
> The best proactive method of dealing with it is to report the forward the
> message, with all the headers, to either spam(a)originatingdomain.com or
> abuse(a)originatingdomain.com. I have to admit that I'm usually too lazy to
> do this; the spam filters on the company's mail server do a good enough
> job that I might get 2-3 spam messages per day at the most (as compared to
> 10-15 on my old earthlink account).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Aaron
> 
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Allison J Parent wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Thanks everyone.
> > 
> > I'm getting spammed and it's apparently from the opt-in thing that I'd 
> > never opt-into!
> > 
> > Any solid suggestion how to shut this down.  I firmly believe the "remove"
> > in these is fake or worse address validation.  I wonder if the whole
> > remove this is bogus.
> > 
> > Allison

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From djenner@halcyon.com Fri Feb 11 22:36:28 2000
From: djenner@halcyon.com
To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org
Subject: how do I decode 157.55.85.212 to a url?
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:36:28 +0000
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It's been mentioned before, but try http://www.spamcop.net.
If you report the SPAM, a appropriate administrator can
shut down the violator.

Using it requires a browser, however, and every time I suggest
something that benefits browser users, the remarks fly that
everyone in this group uses punch cards, a collator, and a
keypunch to read/write this group!  So your mileage may vary.

Dave


Allison J Parent wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> I'm getting spammed and it's apparently from the opt-in thing that I'd
> never opt-into!
> 
> Any solid suggestion how to shut this down.  I firmly believe the "remove"
> in these is fake or worse address validation.  I wonder if the whole
> remove this is bogus.
> 
> Allison
> 
> For example...
> ***************************************************************************
> You received this copy as a subscriber to our opt-in email list.
> If you no longer wish to receive solicitations simply unsubscribe by
> clicking here: http://www.postmasternetwork.net/remove
> <a href="http://www.postmasternetwork.net/remove">Unsubscribe</a>
> ............................................................................
> 
> That's right.
> 
> This week more.com is offering a 6-pack of Ultra Slim Fast for $1 and
> our ever-popular $1 mystery item.
> 
> ****************************************************************************

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