From kurtkilgor@bigfoot.com Wed Jan 6 20:29:13 1999 From: kurtkilgor@bigfoot.com To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: Message formats Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:29:13 +0000 Message-ID: <199901070229.SAA15142@geocities.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0682775099332134065==" --===============0682775099332134065== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The same is not true of html. It's not the waste of bandwidth - it's the > fact that it's darn difficult to read. And it doesn't convey any extra > meaning Actually, I wouldn't even mind simple html, like message text. But most of those programs make crazy html documents that would make its original authors cringe, no doubt. 20 lines of code, mostly weird numbers and font commands and style sheets and so on. Now _that_ is unreadable, and I don't consider it real html, either. > OK, I'll do {\bf bold face} like that. Documented standard, you know... Of course, doing it *with asterisks* is a lot easier to type and understand. > What about the waste in _my_ resources - the carbon-based computer I am > using to compose this message - in trying to decode the real information > from a pile of useless html tags ? Indeed. Some people think they are doing me and others a great service by sending messages with no value whatsoever, and they think they ought to send it in what format is convenient to _them_. Nah. > Well, there's be a good reason for doing that in the UK. The license for > a colour TV is something like 4 times the cost of one for a black and > white TV. And the extra 'entertainment' might not be worth that much. TVs require licenses in the UK? What about if you buy a CRT and make your own? --===============0682775099332134065==-- From meo@netads.com Wed Jan 6 20:41:42 1999 From: meo@netads.com To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: Message formats Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:41:42 +0000 Message-ID: <199901070241.UAA12053@wildride.netads.com> In-Reply-To: <199901070229.SAA15142@geocities.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4928199595498392395==" --===============4928199595498392395== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Max Eskin said... | |TVs require licenses in the UK? What about if you buy a CRT and make your |own? It's illegal, of course. Ifthey don't catch you, there's no license fee. If they catch you, you're sent to Australia. Talk about a win-win situation! -M --===============4928199595498392395==-- From ckaiser@oa.ptloma.edu Thu Jan 7 08:40:42 1999 From: ckaiser@oa.ptloma.edu To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: Message formats Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:40:42 +0000 Message-ID: <199901071440.GAA12706@oa.ptloma.edu> In-Reply-To: <199901070229.SAA15142@geocities.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6273188021775449633==" --===============6273188021775449633== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: text Size: 3320 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/attachments/19990107/cf5b71e= 9/attachment.ksh --===============3703294172321540253==-- From dastar@ncal.verio.com Fri Jan 8 01:51:08 1999 From: dastar@ncal.verio.com To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: OT! Re: Message formats Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 01:51:08 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0133790657985779177==" --===============0133790657985779177== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Tony Duell wrote: > The license is for something like 'installing and operating a TV=20 > receiver'. The money from it is used to fund the BBC. One license covers=20 > all the TVs (and VCRs, etc) in use at one 'household'. A colour license=20 > allows you to operate B/W TVs as well (but not vice versa of course). Yes=20 > there are other terms, conditions and exceptions but that will do for now. I'm sorry, but I just gotta say, requiring a license to watch TV is something I would overthrow the government over. I've never heard of a more cockamamy tax. The way we fund public TV and radio in the U.S. is annoying (pledge drives) but they only last for a couple weeks until the necessary funds are accumulated and they only happen but once or twice a year (and I'm proud to say I pay my "membership" dues dutifully...public radio in the US is top notch). ObCC: Can't think of anything so screw it. Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.= com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always being hassled by the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 12/27/98] --===============0133790657985779177==-- From Hans.Franke@mch20.sbs.de Fri Jan 8 12:34:24 1999 From: Hans.Franke@mch20.sbs.de To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: Message formats Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 12:34:24 +0000 Message-ID: <199901081735.RAA04308@nixpbe.pdb.sni.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5928052898626593324==" --===============5928052898626593324== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Well, there's be a good reason for doing that in the UK. The license fo= r=20 > > > a colour TV is something like 4 times the cost of one for a black and=20 > > > white TV. And the extra 'entertainment' might not be worth that much. > > TVs require licenses in the UK? What about if you buy a CRT and make your > > own? > The license is for something like 'installing and operating a TV=20 > receiver'. The money from it is used to fund the BBC. One license covers=20 > all the TVs (and VCRs, etc) in use at one 'household'. A colour license=20 > allows you to operate B/W TVs as well (but not vice versa of course). Yes=20 > there are other terms, conditions and exceptions but that will do for now. I still belive, if anything can be more complicated by using a form and a stamp (and 3 signatures and 2 more stamps) the British will have a proper form and a whole line of buerocrats to fill it :) (I love former british colonies - one trip to india needs at least 4 to 5 pages in my passport). In fact we have a simmilar system in Germany, but we only divide into radio and TV - But not B&W vs. colour - but you have to pay if your reciver is fine for the used frequency and modulation, in other words, if you have one of these TV (sound) able radios, you have to pay like for an TV - no matter if there is an picture or not - which leads to the fact that even a blind couple has to pay for the TV, when owning such a device (but they get also a reduced TV rate :). On the other hand it simplifies most of your questions - if a device is able to recive a TV signal and decode the data part, you pay. Gruss H. -- Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut HRK --===============5928052898626593324==--