From oajones@bright.net Sat Sep 19 17:59:33 1998 From: oajones@bright.net To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: Help: IBM 5170 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:59:33 +0000 Message-ID: <36043755.4B34@bright.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4662958964778204056==" --===============4662958964778204056== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently I bought 2 IBM 5170's (PC/AT) for 6 bucks. I bought these machines to add to my collection. Both of them say this when I boot up: "162 - System Options Not Set - (Run SETUP)" Both of them have a 512k System board. One only shows 256K of memory during memory test and the other one shows 512K but has a parity error. Is there any dip switches on the motherboard, and is SETUP a software program? Thanks... --Alan -- Computing since: 1982, VIC-20, CoCo, PC, CP/M Amateur Radio since: 1971, WN8JEF, KA6EXR, N8BGR, AA4ZI BASIC, dBASE, Assembly, C++ http://www.bright.net/~oajones --===============4662958964778204056==-- From rhblake@bbtel.com Sat Sep 19 18:33:42 1998 From: rhblake@bbtel.com To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: Help: IBM 5170 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:33:42 +0000 Message-ID: <36043F55.DA30AEA3@bbtel.com> In-Reply-To: <36043755.4B34@bright.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6882820844839019824==" --===============6882820844839019824== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See your personal email, I've answered and attached the setup program there oajones wrote: > Recently I bought 2 IBM 5170's (PC/AT) for 6 bucks. I bought these > machines to add to my collection. Both of them say this when I boot up: > "162 - System Options Not Set - (Run SETUP)" > Both of them have a 512k System board. One only shows 256K of memory > during memory test and the other one shows 512K but has a parity error. > Is there any dip switches on the motherboard, and is SETUP a software > program? > > Thanks... > --Alan > -- > Computing since: 1982, VIC-20, CoCo, PC, CP/M > Amateur Radio since: 1971, WN8JEF, KA6EXR, N8BGR, AA4ZI > BASIC, dBASE, Assembly, C++ > HREF="http://www.bright.net/~oajones">http://www.bright.net/~oajones -- ___________________________________________________ Russ Blakeman, aka "Pooter Fixer" Email: rhblake(a)bbtel.com or rhblake(a)bigfoot.com Website: http://members.xoom.com/pooterfixer/ ___________________________________________________ --===============6882820844839019824==-- From ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk Sat Sep 19 19:00:40 1998 From: ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: Help: IBM 5170 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:00:40 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <36043755.4B34@bright.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7213358347764212628==" --===============7213358347764212628== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text Size: 1995 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/attachments/19980920/ddf8627= 8/attachment.ksh --===============7213358347764212628==-- From oajones@bright.net Sat Sep 19 20:24:14 1998 From: oajones@bright.net To: test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org Subject: Help: IBM 5170 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:24:14 +0000 Message-ID: <3604593E.55C1@bright.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1302280496859804467==" --===============1302280496859804467== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Duell wrote: > > > > > Recently I bought 2 IBM 5170's (PC/AT) for 6 bucks. I bought these > > machines to add to my collection. Both of them say this when I boot up: > > "162 - System Options Not Set - (Run SETUP)" > > That normally means that something has changed since the CMOS RAM was > configured. > > > Both of them have a 512k System board. One only shows 256K of memory > > during memory test and the other one shows 512K but has a parity error. > > Which version of the system board do you have? The older one has 36 RAM > chips, each one being a 128K*1 device (actually made from 2 DIPs soldered > together). The later one has 18 256K*1 bit devices on it. I have > schematics, etc for both boards. > > The partiy error sounds like a RAM chip failing. Try reseating them, and > if it's the later version, try replacing the RAMs one at a time with > known-good ones. 256K*1 DRAMs are pretty easy to get, and the ones on the > system board are socketed. > > > Is there any dip switches on the motherboard, and is SETUP a software > > There are 2 switch-things on the system board (unless you count the > little 8-pin DIP postion behind the expansion slots that can be used to > fiddle with the ROM addressing). > > One is a slide switch next to the power connector. In one position the > board is set up for an MDA display. The other way for a CGA one. I can't > remember which is which, but if you get it wrong, all that happens is > that it fails the POST and beeps. Flip the switch and try again. > > The other is a jumper (J18) to the left of the speaker connector at the > front). This selects between 256K and 512K for RAM on the system board. > Check this is set the same way on both your boards. > > > program? > > Yes, SETUP is the program used to load the parameters into the CMOS RAM. > Unlike most modern PCs, this is not in ROM, but has to be loaded from > disk. There's a free clone (with source, I think) on Simtel somewhere. If > the parameters have got scrambled, then about the only thing it can boot > from is a 5.25" drive as A: > > -tony Thanks for the very helpful information Tony. I would like a copy of the shematic if you can swing it! --Alan -- Computing since: 1982, VIC-20, CoCo, PC, CP/M Amateur Radio since: 1971, WN8JEF, KA6EXR, N8BGR, AA4ZI BASIC, dBASE, Assembly, C++ http://www.bright.net/~oajones --===============1302280496859804467==--