29 Jul
2022
29 Jul
'22
2:05 a.m.
Hello,
Been a while since i last posted here.
I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02 drives.
Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out Ultrix in
the simh emulator. I see during the install the 34 mentioned as a
recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This hang
does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system like the 11/83.
Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation, if not,
rsx will be my second choice.
Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
Thanks,
Devin D.
29 Jul
29 Jul
7:53 a.m.
I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs with 7m on them.
You needed two drives.
RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Hello,
Been a while since i last posted here.
I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02 drives.
Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out Ultrix in
the simh emulator. I see during the install the 34 mentioned as a
recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This hang
does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system like the 11/83.
Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation, if not,
rsx will be my second choice.
Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
Thanks,
Devin D.
8 a.m.
On 7/29/22 10:53, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs
with 7m on them.
You needed two drives.
RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Been a while since i last posted here.
>
> I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02 drives.
>
> Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out
> Ultrix in
> the simh emulator. I see during the install the 34 mentioned as a
> recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This hang
> does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system like the 11/83.
>
> Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation, if not,
> rsx will be my second choice.
>
> Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Devin D.
I didn't try installing but I grabbed a couple RL02 images I
already had and booted an 11/34 with them so it will run. I
may try an install and see what happens.
bill
7:52 p.m.
Thank you for the suggestion, but what is 7m? i have done a few seacches
but not turned up much.
Sounds promising, if i can find install media ill give it a try in simh.
Thanks,
Devin D.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 10:53 AM Chris Zach via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs
with 7m on them.
You needed two drives.
RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Hello,
Been a while since i last posted here.
I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02 drives.
Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out Ultrix
in
the simh emulator. I see during the install the
34 mentioned as a
recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This hang
does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system like the 11/83.
Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation, if not,
rsx will be my second choice.
Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
Thanks,
Devin D.
8:34 p.m.
7m was the Bell Labs unix that came after v6. I've got the disks
somewhere around here, are there other copies out there?
CZ
On 7/29/2022 10:52 PM, devin davison wrote:
Thank you for the suggestion, but what is 7m? i have
done a few seacches
but not turned up much.
Sounds promising, if i can find install media ill give it a try in simh.
Thanks,
Devin D.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 10:53 AM Chris Zach via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs with 7m on them.
You needed two drives.
RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Hello,
Been a while since i last posted here.
I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02
drives.
Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out
Ultrix in
the simh emulator. I see during the install the
34 mentioned as a
recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs.
This hang
does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system
like the 11/83.
Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation,
if not,
rsx will be my second choice.
Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
Thanks,
Devin D.
8:40 p.m.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 8:58 PM devin davison via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/DEC/Jean_Huens_v7m/
Warner
Thanks,
> Devin D.
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 10:53 AM Chris Zach via cctalk <
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> wrote:
> > I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs with 7m on them.
> > You needed two drives.
>
> > RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
>
> > On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > Been a while since i last posted here.
> >
> > > I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02
drives.
> >
> > > Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out
> Ultrix
> > in
> > > the simh emulator. I see during the install the 34 mentioned as a
> > > recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This
> hang
> > > does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system like the 11/83.
> >
> > > Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation,
if
> not,
> > > rsx will be my second choice.
> >
> > > Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > > Devin D.
>
Thank you for the suggestion, but what is 7m? i have
done a few seacches
but not turned up much.
DEC fixed a few bugs in V7 and expanded hardware support and called it 7m.
Sounds promising, if i can find install media ill give it a try in simh.
8:57 p.m.
7m was the Bell Labs unix that came after v6. I've
got the disks
somewhere around here, are there other copies out there?
There is a copy of the contents of a 7m distribution tape at:
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/DEC/Jean_Huens_v7m/
Along with the tape contents, there are also notes on bringing it
Up under SIMH.
11:03 p.m.
Much appriciated, i will check 7m out now.
Thanks for the link to the files.
--Devin D.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 11:41 PM Warner Losh <imp(a)bsdimp.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 8:58 PM devin davison via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/DEC/Jean_Huens_v7m/
Warner
Thanks,
> Devin D.
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 10:53 AM Chris Zach via cctalk <
> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> wrote:
> > I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs with 7m on them.
> > You needed two drives.
>
> > RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
>
> > On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > Been a while since i last posted here.
> >
> > > I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02
drives.
> >
> > > Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out
> Ultrix
> > in
> > > the simh emulator. I see during the install the 34 mentioned as a
> > > recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This
> hang
> > > does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system like the 11/83.
> >
> > > Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation,
if
> not,
> > > rsx will be my second choice.
> >
> > > Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > > Devin D.
>
Thank you for the suggestion, but what is 7m? i
have done a few seacches
but not turned up much.
DEC fixed a few bugs in V7 and expanded hardware support and called it 7m.
Sounds promising, if i can find install media ill give it a try in simh.
30 Jul
30 Jul
3:32 p.m.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 1:20 PM Ron Pool via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/ultrix-11/Unix_V7M_Release_2.1_Software_…
is also helpful. It explains what hardware is supported, and includes how
to set
things up. When I played with it, I used this doc rather than the TUHS doc
because
I somehow overlooked the TUHS docs on how to set it up... In all honesty,
the TUHS
docs, had I read them, would have saved me a bit of time...
Warner
7m was the
Bell Labs unix that came after v6. I've got the disks
somewhere around here, are there other copies out there?
There is a copy of the contents of a 7m distribution tape at:
https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Distributions/DEC/Jean_Huens_v7m/
Along with the tape contents, there are also notes on bringing it
Up under SIMH.
10:11 p.m.
That sounds promising. I'm going to attempt another RL02 install in simh as
well and post back with the results.
Thanks,
Devin D.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 11:00 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 7/29/22 10:53, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01
packs with 7m on them.
You needed two drives.
RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Been a while since i last posted here.
>
> I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02 drives.
>
> Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out
> Ultrix in
> the simh emulator. I see during the install the 34 mentioned as a
> recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This
hang
> does not occur if i emulate a later cpu
system like the 11/83.
>
> Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation, if
not,
> rsx will be my second choice.
>
> Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Devin D.
I didn't try installing but I grabbed a couple RL02 images I
already had and booted an 11/34 with them so it will run. I
may try an install and see what happens.
bill
31 Jul
31 Jul
9:03 a.m.
I'd start with version 6 on an 11/34 first unless you are sure you have
have the required hardware for
There are a few disk pack images out there but not many, you might have to
start with what you can find
B
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 11:35 PM Chris Zach via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
7m was the Bell Labs unix that came after v6. I've
got the disks
somewhere around here, are there other copies out there?
CZ
On 7/29/2022 10:52 PM, devin davison wrote:
Thank you for the suggestion, but what is 7m? i
have done a few seacches
but not turned up much.
Sounds promising, if i can find install media ill give it a try in simh.
Thanks,
Devin D.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 10:53 AM Chris Zach via cctalk
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs with 7m on
them.
You needed two drives.
RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Hello,
Been a while since i last posted here.
I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02
drives.
Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out
Ultrix in
the simh emulator. I see during the install the
34 mentioned as a
recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs.
This hang
does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system
like the 11/83.
Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation,
if not,
rsx will be my second choice.
Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
Thanks,
Devin D.
9:55 a.m.
My copy of V7 just required the FPP. Ran on RL02 or RL01, I forget. Need
to dig it out and image it.
CZ
On 7/29/2022 11:56 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
I'd start with version 6 on an 11/34 first unless
you are sure you have
have the required hardware for
There are a few disk pack images out there but not many, you might have to
start with what you can find
B
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 11:35 PM Chris Zach via cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
wrote:
> 7m was the Bell Labs unix that came after v6. I've got the disks
> somewhere around here, are there other copies out there?
>
> CZ
>
> On 7/29/2022 10:52 PM, devin davison wrote:
>> Thank you for the suggestion, but what is 7m? i have done a few seacches
>> but not turned up much.
>>
>> Sounds promising, if i can find install media ill give it a try in simh.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Devin D.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 10:53 AM Chris Zach via cctalk
>> <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
>>
>> I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs with 7m on
> them.
>> You needed two drives.
>>
>> RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
>>
>> On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Been a while since i last posted here.
>> >
>> > I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02
>> drives.
>> >
>> > Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out
>> Ultrix in
>> > the simh emulator. I see during the install the 34 mentioned as a
>> > recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs.
>> This hang
>> > does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system like the 11/83.
>> >
>> > Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation,
>> if not,
>> > rsx will be my second choice.
>> >
>> > Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Devin D.
>>
>
10:49 a.m.
I put UNIX on a RL02 and ran on an 11/40, so there is no reason why you
can't replicate on an 11/34.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 10:53 AM Chris Zach via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01 packs
with 7m on them.
You needed two drives.
RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
Hello,
Been a while since i last posted here.
I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02 drives.
Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out Ultrix
in
the simh emulator. I see during the install the
34 mentioned as a
recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This hang
does not occur if i emulate a later cpu system like the 11/83.
Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation, if not,
rsx will be my second choice.
Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
Thanks,
Devin D.
1:13 p.m.
I would get it working on simH and then make an RL02 from the working
image. PDP GUI is what I use for stuff like that.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 11:00 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 7/29/22 10:53, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
I know you can run 7m as I have a couple of RL01
packs with 7m on them.
You needed two drives.
RSX11/M 4.2 would probably be the best OS for a 34.
On 7/26/2022 11:52 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Been a while since i last posted here.
>
> I have a few pdp 11/34 systems. The drives i am using are RL02 drives.
>
> Is it possible to install Ultrix on a 34? I have been testing out
> Ultrix in
> the simh emulator. I see during the install the 34 mentioned as a
> recognized cpu type, but later in the install the system hangs. This
hang
> does not occur if i emulate a later cpu
system like the 11/83.
>
> Not sure if ultrix can be installed due to the memory limitation, if
not,
> rsx will be my second choice.
>
> Hoping to have some real hardware running soon!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Devin D.
I didn't try installing but I grabbed a couple RL02 images I
already had and booted an 11/34 with them so it will run. I
may try an install and see what happens.
bill
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