Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE
mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Sat Jan 2 21:24:25 CST 2021
I also had the opportunity to visit the UGC, but after operations had moved
aboveground. The followup to SAGE, the AN/FYQ93 (ROCC, SOCC, JSS) equipment
was still in place, but powered down. This was in 2007. I had previously
worked on both SAGE and the ROCC at McChord AFB as a computer maintenance
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote:
> North Bay is not on the DEW line the DEW line is above the arctic circle and
> while North Bay may seem like the far north to some it is a long way below
> the arctic circle is actually at about the level of the Pine Tree Line. CFB
> North Bay was the SAGE site for the 22nd NORAD region. The SAGE site was 600
> ft under ground in a cavern carved out of solid rock. I had the good fortune
> of going on a tour of the underground while the AN/FSQ-7 computers where
> still operating.
> On 2021-01-02 10:08 p.m., Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote:
>> For one exciting moment there I thought that you were talking about the
>> Semi-Automatic Ground Environment - which a friend of mine was a tech on
>> in North Bay, ON, part of the DEW line!
>> I was getting ready to up stakes and hop off to Philadelphia!
>> Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
>> Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
>> Skype: TILBURY2591 nw.johnson at ieee.org
>> On 2021-01-02 8:44 p.m., Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2021, 7:11 PM Liam Proven via cctalk
>>> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>>>> This may be old news -- it was new to me, though.
>>>> I'm not really familiar with SAGE machines. They were not as
>>>> well-known in the UK, I think, being upmarket from the Apple ][ and
>>>> IBM PC, both of which were eye-wateringly expensive by UK standards of
>>>> the time.
>>>> Also, they were terminal-based things and even back then I was
>>>> interested in boxes with graphics. :-)
>>> There is a SAGE II at Kennett Classic. When I give tours I like to
>>> and contrast the SAGE with the IBM PC, Motorola 68000 vs Intel 8086.
>>> If anyone is in the Philadelphia area stop by and we can fire them up.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
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