State of New Jersey needs COBOL programmers

Fred Cisin cisin at
Sun Apr 5 19:40:44 CDT 2020

>> well, close.
>> His BASIC quote is:
>> "It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that 
>> have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are 
>> mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration."
>> Here is one copy of his 1975 paper, "How Do We Tell Truths That Might 
>> Hurt":

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, geneb wrote:
> That doesn't explain the millions of kids that got their start in BASIC and 
> grew up to learn skills that could wipe the floor with him...

I still believe that the best FIRST exposure to computer programming 
should be BASIC.  VERY FIRST program should have instant gratification, 
without having had to already learn underlying structures, variable 
types, how to run a compiler, etc.  After creating first program, and a 
few more, in a very short time, it would then be sensible to evaluate 
what kind of programming is most interesting, and switch to the most 
appropriate language.  Having already created a few token programs, it is 
then less onerous to learn compilers, data types, system overhead, 

Q: If Bill Gates hadn't written a BASIC interpreter, where would we be 

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