New batch of pdp8 OMNIBUS to USB interface! Please Read and react!

Holm Tiffe holm at
Sun Feb 19 05:15:31 CST 2017

Philipp Hachtmann wrote:

> On 17.02.2017 17:21, Kyle Owen wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Philipp Hachtmann <hachti at>
> > KiCad has no affiliation to Arduino; in fact, it's being heavily maintained
> > by CERN.
> But wherever I (!) look, in my part of the universe, a strongly biased 
> and personal view, I see only those Arduino folks using it.
> Might be different in other places, but...
> > With the licensing model Eagle has just moved
> > to, alternatives like KiCad sure seem attractive.
> The new Eagle license model is a mess. I will stick to my Eagle 7. The 
> idea of my little board designs being held hostage by a company 
> somewhere is not good.
> And when the day has come that I can't go with the then old Eagle 
> anymore and the licensing has not been repaired, then I will think about 
> alternatives. Perhaps then KiCAD has already changed into the greatest 
> EDA tool ever made.

Simply take a look now and then adjust your point of view.
> > Why are you bent out of shape over the Arduino community? It seems clear to
> > me that teenagers growing up with them will outgrow the language and
> > hardware limitations and move onto more advanced things before starting
> > their careers. I think one could make a decent analogy to BASIC on many
> > 8-bit microcomputers from decades past.
> Easy: If I had the impression that it is like you write, I'd be totally 
> fine with it!
> But back in those days with BASIC it was easier to take the next step. 
> If you want to go further beyond Arduino, you will have to instantly 
> understand a huge amount of stuff.
> In my opinion the learning step from using a fancy Arduino library to 
> understanding/modifying/writing another is too big.
> In BASIC it started with little things like peek and poke.
> There was no hidden C++ :-)

I'm used some of the "shields" for aruinos from time to time, but I
never used that arduino software for it. Ok, sometimes it is neccesary
to look into a library to finally find out how the hardware is to be
programmed..but I always wrote the code of my own. At least the masses
of arduino related stuff drops the prices for interresting hardware stuff
to play with.



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