More on manuals plus rescue

Christian Gauger-Cosgrove captainkirk359 at
Fri Aug 21 15:49:18 CDT 2015

On 21 August 2015 at 14:08, Chuck Guzis <cclist at> wrote:
> This leads to some interesting situations.  Archibald Joyce wrote his
> "Autumn Dreams" waltz in 1908 and it has been reported to be the tune the
> orchestra was playing as the Titanic sank in 1912 (contrary to popular
> belief, it is extremely unlikely that the band played "Nearer My God to
> Thee" as they would not have been familiar with the hymn).
They might have been familiar with a different arrangement of the hymn
tune; though no one really knows what was played during the sinking of
the Titanic.

> As Joyce lived to a ripe old age and died in 1963, the work is still very
> much under copyright protection in the UK.  However, the same work was
> published in 1921 in the USA, so it is public domain there.
You want fun with music copyrights? Please go look at the IMSLP
project. Here's their page on how copyrights work with regards to the
sheet music/scores they are archiving:

> As mentioned before, works of Soviet writers and composers were considered
> to be PD (unless copyright was obtained outside of the USSR) by the US
> during the Cold War--similarly, the USSR did not recognize foreign
> copyright.  So you could purchase the sheet music of Shostakovitch for a
> pittance.  After the fall of the Soviet Union, the US moved to "restore"
> Soviet copyright and so removed works back into copyright status.  If you
> want to publish Shostakovitch, you now must deal with his estate--and
> copyright will endure to about 2050.
> --Chuck
2026 is when IMSLP will allow you to start uploading works by
Shostakovitch to their archive. (Canadian servers only! The US and EU
need to wait.)

Christian M. Gauger-Cosgrove
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