R: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System

Guy Sotomayor ggs at shiresoft.com
Tue Aug 11 10:50:50 CDT 2015

It takes 20-30 minutes from the time that I hit the power switch until 
there's a login
screen on the 3179s (not including the time it takes to IML the 3174 
controller).  So
you can see, I did a bit of editing to get a 9 minute video.  ;-)

The service board is located in the chassis.  It plugs into the PCI 
backplane.  However
other z/Series machines have an "external" laptop (though from what I 
can tell, there's
a drawer that the laptop sits in that you pull out when you need to do 
something with
the service element.

TTFN - Guy

On 8/11/15 5:44 AM, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
> Well, that was an interesting video. How long did it take to get it fully loaded ?
> The "service" Celeron board, is it interfaced internally to the rest, or externally ?
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Guy Sotomayor
> Inviato: martedì 11 agosto 2015 07:08
> A: General at main.local; Discussion at main.local:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Oggetto: Re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System
> z/OS is a licensed product from IBM (read $$$'s involved). Generally you can't run anything newer than MVS 3.8j on Hercules.  See the Hercules website (http://www.hercules-390.eu). It has links to other sites where you can get various OS's and other programs that can be legally run.
> Note that there is a "turnkey" system for MVS 3.8j that is set up for Hercules that has an ISPF-like clone.  I have that set up to run on my Mac.  I also have the VM/370 "sixpack" installed as well when I want to run VM/370.
> The version of z/OS installed on my MP3000 does have ISPF (along with lots of other program
> products) installed.
> TTFN - Guy
> On 8/10/15 2:33 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
>> Does it include ISPF? Using MVS is a bear without it...
>> Best,
>> Sean
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Mazzini Alessandro <mazzinia at tin.it> wrote:
>>> Well, there's a z/os image for hercules, floating around....
>>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>>> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] Per conto di Kevin
>>> Monceaux
>>> Inviato: lunedì 10 agosto 2015 21:55
>>> A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>>> Oggetto: Re: Booting an IBM MP 3000 S/390 System
>>> Guy,
>>> On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 11:20:42PM -0700, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
>>>> I spent some time today and made a video of my MP 3000 system
>>>> booting up to z/OS.  The video is here: http://youtu.be/WnJmeQR0GQU.
>>> Sadly I'll have to wait until I get home to watch it.  YouTube is
>>> blocked where I work.  I suspect I'll be experiencing extreme envy as I watch it.
>>> The closest I have is Hercules running the OSes freely available to
>>> hobbyists.  Just one thing - one doesn't boot z/OS, one IPL's z/OS.
>>> :-)
>>> --
>>> Kevin
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>>> What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works!
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