FYI sunhelp.org down
Maciej W. Rozycki
macro at linux-mips.org
Thu Oct 22 23:07:08 CDT 2020
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> > I suppose the list server relies on the same nameservers in a way that
> > prevents e-mail distribution from happening.
> I don't think so. At least I thought that the hot wiring that I did to my
> mail server only effected /sending/ of email.
> The changes I made to the DNS server would have effected /receiving/ of email.
> I have successfully sent a message to the geeks at sunhelp mailing list /and/
> received my copy of said message from said mailing list.
> > I have since resubmitted the same message manually to sunhelp.org's SMTP
> > receiver (the original message is still in the outgoing mail queue:
> > smtp/sunhelp.org: B/W/23993316: (196 tries, expires in 2d17h) smtp; 466 (No
> > DNS response for host: sunhelp.org; h_errno=0)
> > ) to see what happens and got a DSN ack even, but the message did
> > not get through.
> Were you sending a message to geeks at sunhelp or a different address?
It was to <rescue at sunhelp.org>. The resubmitted message eventually made
it through last Tue, Oct 20th, after a week of being held:
Received: from ohno.mrbill.net ([184.108.40.206]:57765 "EHLO ohno.mrbill.net"
rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by eddie.linux-mips.org with ESMTP
id S23991030AbgJTMxVN8USJ (ORCPT <rfc822;macro at linux-mips.org>);
Tue, 20 Oct 2020 14:53:21 +0200
Received: from ohno.mrbill.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ohno.mrbill.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E173B1E0DF9;
Tue, 13 Oct 2020 22:55:12 -0500 (CDT)
X-Original-To: rescue at sunhelp.org
Delivered-To: rescue at mrbill.net
Received: from cvs.linux-mips.org (eddie.linux-mips.org
[220.127.116.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
(No client certificate requested) by ohno.mrbill.net (Postfix) with
ESMTPS id 84C0D1E0915 for <rescue at sunhelp.org>; Tue, 13 Oct 2020
22:55:10 -0500 (CDT)
which I think does coincide with the revival of mrbill.net services:
Domain Name: MRBILL.NET
Registry Domain ID: 1373333_DOMAIN_NET-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2020-10-19T15:39:08Z
and makes me conclude my suspicion was right.
> > So local hot wiring of name resolution (which I suppose could be as easy as
> > adding a /etc/hosts entry rather than going through the hoops of setting up
> > a manipulated name server) might be good enough to get at the web pages, but
> > not to get the list going.
> Ya ... email tends to be more reliant on DNS. At least unless you explicitly
> tell it to not use it for specific domains. And that's exactly what I did. I
> hard (hot) wired email routing so that email for sunhelp.org goes to
> ohno.mrbill.net, which is resolvable do to my DNS hot wiring (forwarders).
I wish it was the case. The admin of linux-mips.org, a friend of mine,
has vanished since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic in Europe last
March -- I do hope nothing wrong has happened to him and he does surface
Anyway, he's the only one who can remove a stale /etc/hosts entry here
for vger.kernel.org, which prevents me from posting to any Linux kernel
mailing lists hosted there unless I resort to some horrible hacks, which
in turn tend to randomly break sending e-mail elsewhere. Sigh...
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