Prime 50-Series emulator announcement
bill.gunshannon at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 24 12:37:44 CDT 2020
On 3/24/20 1:25 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
> > Is there anywhere we can find a list of what is avaiable on each of
> > those images? I tried a few and at least one has all the compilers
> > but no emacs. Another has emacs but apparently no compilers. :-)
> > I'm impressed so far but would really like to find systems that I can
> > do some real programming on. Is it possible for someone to build a
> > Rev 24 image with everything on it?
> There's not a list of what's on each image. I'll think about creating
> Recall that the layered products tended to be related to the version of
> the base OS. Sometimes you could use an older version on a newer
> PRIMOS, sometimes not. Since the ones we have came with specific
> distribution tape sets, or from backups of specific machines, and
> basically nobody just had everything Prime sold, the systems we can
> build are "uneven". The largest collections of layered products in
> captivity are for 19, 22 and 23. I think the only copy of INFORMATION
> is on 21. Etc.
I'll just have to start all of them and see which have the fullest
set of compilers. :-) Maybe have to find a version of emacs that
is publicly available that will build on Primos. :-)
I wonder if anyone has a copy of the sources for EDV? that was our
common editor when I did this for a living. It was a very good full
screen editor and was written in Fortran (with calls to some low
level Primos stuff for the single character input and such).
> There are incomplete source sets for 19 and 22. We're in the process of
> revamping the 19.2 sample system to have the source for the kernel it's
> running baked in.
Ah... Sources. That was my ballywick back in those days. Maintaining
the OS and layered products for a cluster of 850's at West Point. Those
were the days.
> > My last real work with Primos was during the move from Rev 19 to Rev
> > 20. I am amazed at how much I have forgotten and really regret
> > having gotten rid of all my documentation (at least I think I did, I
> > suppose it is possible there is still a box in the attic full of
> > Prime manuals including my course books from the internals class!)
> I've had to refresh a few things, but I'm amazed at how many details are
> still in my head. There's a lot of new stuff post-20, too.
I barely touched 20 saw nothing beyond that.
> I know I ended up with some of your manuals. Lots of scanned manuals at
> sysovl.info in PDF form, if you can live with that. A couple versions
> of the internals class manual are there.
Well, I guess I don't need to go looking in the attic then. :-)
I think I was the only one who took the class that actually kept the
manual, which is how I ended out with more than one copy. :-)
> I'm still moving stuff into that site, so if there's something specific
> you need, let me know and I'll see if I can help.
I would say that the biggest help other than compilers would be EMACS. I
may actually still have the Prime EMACS Manual. I think I kept that
because I use EMACS on other systems, too and it was a good manual.
> > One other one that I should know but forgot is how to add a user.
> > Would be nice to set it up properly before I start loading programs
> > on it.
> You do that with EDIT_PROFILE. Make sure the priority ACL is set (I
> think that's being done at boot), and run it from the console.
Thank you. That stuck in my head but reading the pocket guides I still
have didn't refresh it for me.
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