HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

Neil Thompson albiorix at gmail.com
Tue Mar 10 10:23:27 CDT 2020

I'm a genuine hobbyist - I've been trying to keep examples of every
os/system I've ever worked with to play with now that I've retired (either
hardware or emulation based). My VAX equipment turned to carbonised scrap
due to lightning a while ago and I'm now emulation based and have been
using the Hobbyist licence, but it looks as though it's just becoming too
much hassle to do it any more.  So I'm dropping the whole thing - sad, but
I don't have time for nonsense any more.

On the upside, a system I've never worked on has ramped up greatly - I'm
having a lot of fun with Multics and the dps8m emulator/simulator.  HPE -
have a look at the way Honeywell handled their legacy stuff and take a

On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 17:07, Warner Losh via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>

> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 3:48 AM Peter Corlett via cctalk <
> cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote
> > > 2. Declare that we need to develop an open replacement.
> >
> > There is FreeVMS, but there also doesn't seem to have been any progress
> on
> > it
> > in the last decade and its domain has been lost and taken over by a
> > squatter.
> >
> > Writing an operating system is *hard*, way beyond a weekend's hacking
> > which is
> > how most open source projects get going. Cloning an existing one is
> > doubly-so
> > because it has to be bug-compatible.
> >
> > Linux has taken thirty years to get this far. It's arguable what is
> > "major" but
> > to a rough approximation, there are no good open source clones of other
> > operating systems of similar complexity: I'm aware of FreeDOS, AROS,
> > EmuTOS and
> > a few others, but they're relatively simple.
> >
> Linux never was a thing on the VAX that was very good. It was too late in
> its life cycle to get enough love.
> Linux and/or NetBSD/vax would be a good choice, though, to implement the
> VAX's system calls and execute it's binaries. Though there were more
> concerted efforts to do this years ago, but I don't know what became of
> them. Google shows a smattering of efforts littered with broken links. :(
> Warner

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