"First Internet message" and ...

Richard Pope mechanic_2 at charter.net
Mon Nov 25 12:57:38 CST 2019


Nigel,
     You are correct. Sorry! A Senior moment. LOL! :) What about 
internet vs Internet?
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!

On 11/25/2019 12:53 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote:
> No, your home has an intranet!
>
> cheers,
>
> Nigel
>
>
> On 25/11/2019 13:45, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:
>> Noel,
>>     Isn't the proper term for my network of computers here at home: 
>> internet and the term : Internet the proper term for the worldwide 
>> collection of networked computers?
>> GOD Bless and Thanks,
>> rich!
>>
>> On 11/25/2019 12:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
>>>      > From: Fred Cisin
>>>
>>>      > Is that message about 1) history of internet? (THANK YOU for 
>>> specifying
>>>      > "internet", otherwise "computer to computer" involves much 
>>> older history.
>>>      > ...
>>>      > those messages were sent on PRECURSORS to the internet, NOT 
>>> on the
>>>      > internet.
>>>
>>> Did you mean "internet" or 'Internet'?
>>>
>>> The poorly educated cretins at the AP nothwithstanding, those are two
>>> different words, with _different meanings_.
>>>
>>>
>>>      > Definition and history of the WORD "internet" is also critical
>>>      > ...
>>>      > do you know of any actual use of the word/name "internet" 
>>> prior to the
>>>      > December 1974 RFC about TCP?
>>>
>>> I believe the word 'internet' was coined for:
>>>
>>>        V. Cerf and R. Kahn, "A Protocol For Packet Network
>>>        Intercommunication," IEEE Transactions on Communication, vol. C-
>>>        2O, No. 5. May 1974, pp. 637-648.
>>>
>>> There was earlier work in the general area of connecting computer data
>>> networks together, performed in the International Packet Network 
>>> Working
>>> Group (INWG), which had an alternative term 'catenet' which had much 
>>> the same
>>> meaning as 'internet'. (Although little-known, the INWG - not to be 
>>> confused
>>> with the later DARPA-centric group of the same acronym - is 
>>> documented in two
>>> papers, a draft one by Ronda Hauben, and a later one by Alex 
>>> McKenzie.) I
>>> don't know if the term 'internet' was used there before its 
>>> appearance in the
>>> Cerf/Kakhn paper.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, "Internetworking" is mentioned in RFC604, December 
>>> 1973, so
>>> the word was in circulation in the technical community before the 
>>> Cerf/Kahn
>>> paper came out.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Internet" came along later, when we needed a name for the internet 
>>> centered
>>> around the ARPANET. The need was discussed on the then-central email 
>>> list for
>>> the TCP/IP community (which may have been called 'inwg' - my memory 
>>> is, alas,
>>> fading), and we decided on 'Internet'.
>>>
>>> I'd previously looked for the first use of 'Internet' in that sense 
>>> in the
>>> RFC's, and found it, but I don't remember what it was! Looking 
>>> again, there's
>>> a lot of 'Internet Protocol' and similar things to sort out; I see an
>>> 'Internet' in RFC780, May 1981, but it's marginal (it says "ARPA 
>>> Internet");
>>> the first 'true' use of 'Internet' on its own in the current meaning 
>>> which
>>> I found was in RFC821, August 1982.
>>>
>>>     Noel
>>>
>>
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