what's vintage? was Re: Latest addition: A bondi-blue iMac

Cameron Kaiser spectre at floodgap.com
Fri Jul 1 13:00:40 CDT 2016

> Computers don't (yet) have voting 
> rights. :-)
> But you're defining "spirit" and listing 
> criteria by which a machine is 
> appropriate or not.   A PS/2 with an 
> 80386 running Windows 3.1 is acceptable, 
> whereas a Packard Bell with an 80386 
> running Windows 3.1 is not.    Yeah, you 
> and I would cringe at a PB being 
> discussed, but maybe there's someone out 
> there who really is fond of their PB.
> So as Terry ("Tezza") acknowledges, 
> terms like "landmark," "classic," 
> "collectible" are subjective (but I 
> don't think "vintage" is subjective -- 
> that term is usually set by age alone).
> This is why it's just easier to use a 
> single criteria -- age -- and leave it 
> at that.   Why is age acceptable 
> everywhere else in collecting, but not 
> here?     Otherwise, someone (the list 
> owner?) has to pontificate over a list 
> of acceptable computers.  Good luck with 
> that.

I think we ended up going in knots before with what essentially boiled down
to, "anything above a certain age that's not a beige box PC qualifies." Then
the problem became one of definining what a commodity PC was. Will old Intel
Macs qualify? (I'd say so, but I'm a Power Mac bigot.)

It can't be numbers sold, either, because virtually everyone agrees the
Commodore 64 qualifies as appropriate and that machine was the greatest
single selling model of computer of all time.

Unfortunately, I think we'll have to come to grips with the realization that
in 50 years, beige box and other sorts of (soulless) commodity PCs will be
primarily what survive amongst retro enthusiasts.

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