Who's rewired their house for this hobby?

Holm Tiffe holm at freibergnet.de
Sun Nov 23 14:53:22 CST 2014


Chuck Guzis wrote:

> On 11/23/2014 07:24 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> 
> >Can't see any advantage of the american system to the german, sorry.
> >Frome here it looks pretty outdated.
> 
> Well, that's what evolution sometimes gets you.    The US 3-wire 
> residential distribution system dates from Edison's 1882 DC system 
> (+100,0,-100).   One of Edison's original carbon-filament lamps will 
> screw into any modern residential lamp socket.  There are homes in the 
> US still using knob-and-tube wiring, as well as Edison-base fuses in the 
> distribution box.  Originally, residential distribution was intended for 
> lighting only, so AC versus DC was not an important concern for the 
> average homeowner.  100V (plus a certain amount for line drop) was 
> selected because it was felt not to be a significant electrocution hazard.

Yes, yes.. Edison 27 Sockets aren't really unknown here and still in use
today. As for History, think about old German Names like Siemens or AEG.
We had such old Power distribution systems until the fifties I think, there
where even DC Supplies or "two phase" 2x110V with the center connected to
ground in use.
But this gets standardized to times where people mostly had nothing other
than light bulbs, irons or tube radios at home so the "collateral damadge"
was small...

> 
> Although the NEC dates back to 1897, it never has been the sole 
> governing standard in the USA.  For example, in the city were I was 
> raised, non-metallic-sheathed cable was illegal; Rigid conduit was the 
> rule.  Kept the very strong IBEW in control, it did.

Remember to have seen such tubes with two wires in some sort of tar for
isolation when I was a kid.. I'm 51 years now.
> 
> When I worked in a steel mill, the distribution panel in our small 4-man 
> shop looked like 460V, 230V, 115V 60Hz AC, 440V, 110V, 220V 25Hz AC and 
> 250V DC, all with accompanying transformers.  Larger shops included 
> 3-phase distribution of both 25Hz and 60Hz.

OMG.
> 
> The point is, that the US has adopted a course of compatibility with 
> older standards, rather than a revolutionary course.

Do you think that this was a good decision?
> 
> I understand that parts of Europe were also slow to abandon DC 
> residential lighting.
> 
> --Chuck
>

As I already wrote, at least in east germany (behind the iron curtain) 
this changed in the fifties and that where installations from before ww2.

Regards,

Holm
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